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Random health and exercise thoughts

Discussion in 'Health & Body' started by Eason, Dec 20, 2009.

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  1. I<3Bacon

    I<3Bacon Senior member

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    alex viada is the exception to the rule. wouldn't use him as an example for anything other than "genetic freaks"
     
  2. conceptionist

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    Also wonder what Viadas training schedule looks like.

    Getting to 800 squat and be a good endurance athlete must require an immense volume and effort.
    Considering the hours endurance athletes put in I wonder how multi discipline athletes like him make it work.
     
  3. ridethecliche

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    There's a reason why you always see people post about him... ie they're very few and far between.
     
  4. Khayembii Communique

    Khayembii Communique Senior member

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    FT MBA



    Yeah our max is $6,000/mo.
     
  5. no frills

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    Have fun! Loved my time in the MBA program. While I was taking my MBA (gulp) sixteen years ago, I helped train competitors in the local university's bodybuilding competition. Haha! Those were fun days.

    My days setting PRs are long gone as I train mostly to stay healthy and relatively fit for my kids these days, but I'm still happy learning new skills. Picked up the jump rope recently and having tons of fun. Even though I suck and take several days to pick up variations.
     
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    Thanks! Bitching about money aside, I think it's going to be great.
     
  8. Coldsnap

    Coldsnap Senior member

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    So what does a novice bodybuilding program look like? I'm at that odd stage in weightlifting now, been lifting for 3 years, to where linear gains has all but been used up and going to the gym and "lift more than yesterday" is getting me no where. I guess maybe I need to go from 4 days in gym to 5 or start playing around with volume and intensity..


    He's local here and is a damn good athlete and training, also gives out free advice all the time, great guy. All his accomplishments need to come with a caveat. For example I was telling my sister about him who also runs those crazy long races and she sad that's not possible, she checked her ultra database thing and ever ultra marathon he has entered he came out as a DNF. His 700lbs bull is in a suit. And his only recorded mile is significantly under what he goes by. I'm not hating on the guy, he's a specimin of strength and conditioning. Alas though I understand it's a dog eat dog world out there in fitness and he's made his niche, so good on him! I just feel bad for the dumbass reading mens health and fitness thinking they need to start doing 1RM and running timed miles.

    I ride my bike 3 miles to the gym, it's a BMX bike so I gotta work even harder. I do this 4x a week, I don't feel it affects my strength in the gym. Low intensity steady state is the way to go.
     
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  9. Lagrangian

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    I would guess the emphasis is on the anaerobic side of things, i.e. weight training as opposed to a lot of endurance stuff. I don't really know how the interplay is between the two ends of the training spectrum, but intuition would have it that a big squat like that would be a lot ´harder' to maintain than endurance capability.
     
  10. Coldsnap

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    I trained with my friend for 4+ months who had him as a coach. It's simple, don't need to over complicate it even if you're working on three aspects of training. Week was a mix of strength days, hypertrophy days, and endurance days. When training like that you have to up the carbs, something like add 400carbs to what you were already eating.
     
  11. conceptionist

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    Get on a daily undulating periodization program. DUP in short. Basically a periodization structure that varies on multiple levels, from heavy to light days, high/low stress days, high rep to low rep lifting, training blocks with different emphasis, etc, but generally higher frequency. Generally I would say its just a more sophisticated method. Many studies have shown its effectiveness over linear periodization, especially for experienced lifters but also novices.

    I know I'm a Sheiko fanboy but those programs are really great for getting solid programs without dealing with any hassle yourself. If its to any value for you, I know one guy who is very competitive in Men's Physique (meaning he basically only lifts for aesthetics) and he uses the Sheiko programs for the powerlifts and adds 4-5 bodybuilding exercises to each day. He's happy with his results.

    Sounds reasonable. From my understanding it takes less training to get up to a "decent" level in running than strength.
     
  12. Coldsnap

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    I've tried DUP and actually got weaker. I'm a god awful athlete and pretty pitiful, like I need to focus all my energy into one thing to get any sort of results.
     
  13. no frills

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    Sounds like me. I rarely push more than three and a half hours a week these days. No long distance sports to speak of that require more of an investment in time; I warm up, go as heavy as I can for 6-8 reps, a couple of sets of all of 3-4 basic compound bodybuilding exercises. HIIT either on the treadmill or 20 minutes with the jump rope. Done in 50-55 minutes, back to the little kids.

    On the plus side, I've been relatively injury and pain free most months of the year; it's been a couple of years since I seriously hurt my lower back (it used to put me out of commission at least once a year, for a few days or so). I can't deny that much of my current size is likely due to my crazy days as a teenager and in my early 20s when my 1RM was in the high 300s for the bench press and low 500s in the squat. Am I coasting these days? Some might interpret it that way, but at this point my current regimen really works for what life demands of me.
     
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    Anyone want she-Powerlifts for their lady? Local Marshalls is selling them for 60 CAD per, or 45 USD.
     
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    Not enjoying buy side equity research as much as I thought. I can seen it being good for someone with a few years experience on the sell side who really knows their industry or at a huge firm like blackrock, which has a proper grad scheme and training, but even though the AUM here is $200bn they don't really have anyway to train grads. Hours are great and the work is interesting, but i'm going to go do m&a. Should be easy to get with an elite boutique and a bulge bracket on my cv.
     
  16. conceptionist

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    What does the bolded part has to do with DUP? Its just another way to say multi-periodization. It has nothing to do with doing multiple sports or whatever it seems like you are referring to.

    How long did you stick to it?
    If you increase volume by added frequency or number of lifts per session, you are no doubt gonna get weaker in the short term. Might take several months until you see gains, but long term it is needed to drive progression.

    Life, prioritization and other goals aside, you will not get as good progress (if any at all) by doing the same program over and over again once you reach a fairly high level (which you seem to have). You simply cannot add 5 lbs or whatever weight to the bar every time you train and expect that to hold forever. Eventually you have to simply train a lot more to get better.
     
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    This seems insane to me to be honest but I've never worked in finance.
     
  18. GraphicNovelty

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    3 day split:

    Shoulders and quads:
    Squat 3x5
    Front Squat 3x8-12
    DB Shoulder press 3x8-12
    Front, side, back lateral raise 3x12
    Leg press 3x12
    Leg Curl 3x12
    Ab work.

    Back/hamstrings/biceps
    Deadlift 3x5
    Straight legged deadlift 3x8-12
    DB Bicep Curl 3x8-12
    Pull-ups/Weighted pull-ups 3x8-12
    DB Row/Bent Over row 3x8-12
    Shrugs 3x12
    Ab work.

    Chest and Triceps:
    Bench 3x5
    DB Bench Press 3x8-12
    Incline DB Bench Press 3x8-12
    Flat DB Flye 3x12
    Incline DB Flye 3x12
    Tricep Pushdown 3x12
    Ab work.

    Just do it as many times in a week as you can, rotating through the split. Do your main lift quick at a decently heavy weight but don't feel the need to push the #'s too hard and gas yourself out early. Try and keep things at a pretty quick pace because it's a lot of volume. Once you can do 12 reps of the 8-12 reps stuff then jump to the next weight and drop to 8.
     
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    Progressing on accessory movements like you've written really is dumb-proof. I love it. 6-8, 8-12, 12-15, 16-20, and 20-??? are all ranges I like working through.
     
  20. GraphicNovelty

    GraphicNovelty Senior member

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    Yeah BBing is pretty easy to program. It's much more about getting your diet right than your programming.

    On that note, I'm gonna do another quick cut as I'm getting soft again :fu:. I'm back up to 170 already.
     
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