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Random health and exercise thoughts

Discussion in 'Health & Body' started by Eason, Dec 20, 2009.

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  1. conceptionist

    conceptionist Senior member

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    +1 on both Easons and Tesseracts comments.

    You have to stop thinking of just the weight on the bar. Progressive overload has more to do with increasing the overall tonnage over time, just not weight on the bar irregardless of volume. Tonnage is volume x weight.

    Squats with a typical Bodybuilding style rep x set scheme: 200 lbs x 3 sets x 10 reps = tonnage of 6000 lbs
    Squats with a typical Powerlifting style rep x set scheme: 315 x 6 sets x 3 reps = tonnage of 5670 lbs

    The bodybuilding work in the above example is actually "heavier" work in the end, even it at first sight would not seem so.
    Now, that does not mean that the BB work will get you a bigger 1RM, as pure strength also has to do with getting used to training with and feeling heavy loads. It could very well lead to more hypertrophy though.

    I think higher rep sets and generally just higher volume make you store more water in you muscles, making you look bigger.
     
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  2. Tooch4321

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    It's not too bad, I think they have a summer student plan. They only have one rack, but if you go on off-hours you won't have a problem spending hours in it. It's a no frills place with enough equipment to get the job done. I'm a member and go when I am too lazy to travel to Quads or Lance's...
     
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  3. fuji

    fuji Senior member

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    Brb doing overhead press with the bar for 100 reps brb 4500lb of movement fuk ye
     
  4. conceptionist

    conceptionist Senior member

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    Well, its not really that simple. the load still has to be heavy enough to stimulate the muscles enough.

    But my point of tonnage is an established theory.

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  5. GraphicNovelty

    GraphicNovelty Senior member

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    So I roasted a 3.5 lb chicken, tore off all the meat, put in 2 cups of 2% greek yogurt and a can of chipotle chilis in adobo sauce

    Delicious creamy spicy tangy chicken salad you can just eat over a bed of veggies or in a pita or whatever..

    1,270 Calories,
    20 g carbs
    45 g fats
    185 g. protein.

    gonna do this with a rotisserie chicken tomorrow. my neighborhood grocery marks them down to like $3 after 10 pm.
     
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    GraphicNovelty Senior member

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    Also since I can't really do any heavy heavy lifts while i'm cutting i'm gonna try a conceptionist style full body workout each day because of my fucked up shoulder

    DB Bench press 3x5-8
    DB Incline Press 3x5-8
    DB Bicep Curl 3x5-8
    DB Shoulder Press 3x5-8
    DB Row 3x5-8
    Assisted/weighted (eventually) Pullup 3x5-8
    Front Squat 3x5-8
    KB Swings 3x25 (works my posterior chain)

    Hopefully I don't lose all my gains :(
     
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  7. conceptionist

    conceptionist Senior member

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    Looks good. I don't think think you need to do it every day though. Might be hard to progress on the lufts that frequently.
    If you're used to twice weekly frequency per muscle group (like Upper/Lower 4x a week), it could prob be neough to start at every other day for an average 3.5x weekly freq for a muscle group.

    I like to use DB flyes every now and then to really isolate the chest and stretch it out. Its both a builder and prehab movement imo. Lunges or leg press could also be swapped in if you can't back squat.
     
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  8. fuji

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    Absolutely love db flys, pretty high incline, heavy dbs and let them sit in the bottom for a few seconds for dat stretch hnnnnnnnnnnng. I don't really feel anything on the concentric though.
     
  9. GraphicNovelty

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    DB Flyes are one of those movements i don't trust with my shoulder/will start doing when i'm more confident. This whole rehab process has been very "two steps forward, one step back" :/. But in the end of it I've come out with better cardio capacity and just a little bit of flab (no real loss of gains).

    Anyway, I'm gonna aim to do it as often as possible, probably 3-4 times a week, and start running in the mornings to maintain my cardio capacity (i'm gonna purposely undershoot cardio cals as well).

    Actual direct shoulder work feels fine, just random shit like squats are what messes it up.
     
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    tonnage is pretty used as a measure in professional circles. my coach (put people in the olympics) uses it to plan periodization and such.
     
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    This looks good, I'm gonna steal it. What do you guys eat for breakfast? I usually have an english muffin or toast or something, sometimes with eggs or occasionally sausage, and then a greek yogurt at like 10. I'm trying to have less carbs more brotein though
     
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    500g of fat free yoghurt, 75g of whey and 100g of oats. Macros are like 100 protein, 80 carb, 6 fat or something along those lines.
     
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    I am on dat IF no breakfast life

    I would crack four eggs and scramble em with different seasonings if I were to eat a breakfast: http://fourhourguru.com/4-hour-chef-lesson-2-scrambled-eggs/
     
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    IF no breakfast crew checking in.
     
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  15. tesseract

    tesseract Senior member

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    today I had an argument that my shirt that has a porn star on it is disgusting because it objectifies women, she's currently cutting weight to compete in bikini...
     
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  16. GraphicNovelty

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    you're obviously not going to be convinced that your shirt is objectification so i'm not gonna bother making that argument, but it should be pointed out competing in a bb competition in bikini wouldn't be considered objectification in the same way.
     
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    I think I went into hypoglycemic shock this morning. Been cutting very hard recently, took a few hours for me to eat anything this morning. Was in the kitchen my eyesight started blurring, legs went numb and I blacked out. Woke up, ate a bunch of potatoes then ran to a bakery still feeling really weird and bought a bunch of croissants and now I'm fine. Weird feels man.
     
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  18. conceptionist

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    Used to not eat breakfast when I did IF. Bulking no so gotta have breakfast to get the calories in.

    Standard is a bowl of spinach with 2 boiled eggs in, some salt and pepper.
    After that I'll have another bowl of oatmeal with cinnamon, crack a raw egg in it and stir when its almost done. Makes the oatmeal get a nice texture and the fat from the egg adds flavour. Berries and greek yoghurt on top of the oatmeal. Strong black coffee to drink.

    I portion it so its about 50 carbs, 20 fat, 50 protein.
     
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  19. tesseract

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    my shirt is objectification most definitely but competing in bikini is by far the most intense form of objectification of women on earth, even the judging guidelines are loose so judges pick the girl they think is the cutest.
     
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    I have 2 boiled eggs plus 150 grams ground turkey that I make using taco seasoning (cayenne, chili, paprika, garlic powder, salt, pepper).

    I've gotten tired of it recently though so now it's 2 eggs plus 5oz of rotisserie chicken.
     

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