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Random health and exercise thoughts

Discussion in 'Health & Body' started by Eason, Dec 20, 2009.

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  1. MarkI

    MarkI Senior member

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    BCAAs + Creatine + Gatorade Power during workout is beast.

    My left leg IT band is fucking with me, giving me trouble. Best thing to do for this is foam roll and stretch, yes?
     
  2. mrchariybrown

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    Aggressively marketed? Yes, I agree that the T gel is.. I see a bunch of commercials for it. But I didn't argue that. I argued that they're not being "heavily over-prescribed". The vast majority of people on HRT/TRT and other boards pertaining to use get denied by doctors unless they have very low test. Also, I didn't mean to include T gel in the convo - I'd heard they have a lot of sides. I just meant injectable T.

    I'd argue test is safe if you're taking it to bring levels up to normal levels (600-700). Better outlook on life, better sex drive, less chance of infertility, etc.

    If you're basing testosterone on not being safe because of survival (difference in men and women) and not "living", then I can't really debate this with you. It's nature that gives men more test, what do you want me to say? lol

    As for cancer? Can you direct me to a study that says that? I'm honestly curious because all the data I've seen is inconclusive and/or points to TRT NOT affecting risk levels of cancer. http://www.lef.org/newsletter/2013/...ion-With-Testosterone-Replacement-Therapy.htm

    Same goes for heart attack/stroke. I can't find any study that has more test = increased risk. Plain and simple. The closest thing I found was that if men under the age of 65 had TRT AND had a history of heart disease, their risk of heart attack doubled. But if they didn't have any history of heart disease, there was no impact.

    As you state, 30% increased risk of heart attack at 25 for a male without heart disease is pretty insignificant imo if that means a better mood and other health benefits.
     
  3. mrchariybrown

    mrchariybrown Senior member Affiliate Vendor

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    Yep, and some lacrosse ball shit helps too.

    My right one makes me knee hurt.
     
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  4. GraphicNovelty

    GraphicNovelty Senior member

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    Yes. You might not even need to foam roll if you consistently stretch.

    Also check your shoes. I get IT band pain when I'm wearing shoes that make me stand funny.
     
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    I cry tears of joy when I do Limber 11 each workout day. Damn is it painful though.
     
  6. KingJulien

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    A lot of doctors think it's being over-prescribed for the target market (men over 40):
    Quote: But yeah, I'm talking about the gel here. Again, I don't think there is any conclusive evidence either way for younger men with no prior history:

    Quote: Personally, if I had really low T levels at my age, I think I would look into treatment for bringing it up to normal levels. So ultimately we agree. It's just something that we don't really have enough information on regarding risk, yet.
     
  7. mrchariybrown

    mrchariybrown Senior member Affiliate Vendor

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    I do agree that there isn't enough studies done on it. I am hopeful that if and when there are more studies done it in, a bit of the stigma surrounding testosterone supplementation will be lifted.
     
  8. mrchariybrown

    mrchariybrown Senior member Affiliate Vendor

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    Btw, weird you guys.. KingJulien and I had a civil discussion about a RHET-related topic and we came to an understanding without flinging shit at the walls.

    Maybe there is hope for the rest of you. :lol:
     
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    Ace gets prescribed for trt? Wat? Would not want to pin every day for trt.
     
  10. VLSI

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    Fell back asleep, but caught up. Still trying to figure out what to do, not something I wanted to have to do, might try it though to be honest. Won't be touching gels. It's hard to imagine a scenario in which extra test wouldn't make you feel better, so I just need to figure out what's adequate. I googled the stroke thing and found a newspaper article that referenced a study done on men in a much higher risk category for those issues than me anyways...
     
  11. mrchariybrown

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    Nah, I don't think ace never gets prescribed. But I wanted to include it in there since they don't have any difference from enth and cyp asides from half-life.
     
  12. Eason

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    OKAY THAT'S ENOUGH. I'M CALLING YOU OUT, FUJI. THERE IS NO WAY YOU ARE NATTY.
     
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  13. GraphicNovelty

    GraphicNovelty Senior member

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    there's no way you aren't mirin'
     
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    TRT is good in the right patient, but it's not without its risks. There's no such thing as a "safe" drug, even if it is replacing a natural hormone. As with every medication, the benefits and risks need to be weighed by the patient with physician guidance. Depending on risk factors(such as the mentioned cardiovascular disease), the risks may outweigh the benefits. Evidence-based Medicine is there to help guide our decisions, but by no means is it capable of giving us the correct answers for every individual patient. That's where clinical judgment comes into play. For every action or inaction you make in medicine, there are potential consequences.

    The evidence does show increased risk of cerebro- and cardiovascular events in men receiving TRT, but that doesn't mean that nobody should ever get TRT. It's just more information for the clinician and patient to consider.
     
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    what cerebro events?
     
  17. TeeKay

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    Stroke, namely.
     
  18. GraphicNovelty

    GraphicNovelty Senior member

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  19. TRINI

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    Does he even lift?
     
  20. thekunk07

    thekunk07 Senior member

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    well thats not good. i start cypionate from dr. tomorrow, 100mg every 7 days
     
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