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Random health and exercise thoughts

Discussion in 'Health & Body' started by Eason, Dec 20, 2009.

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  1. Cary Grant

    Cary Grant Senior member

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    "45 degree military press" is what it's typically called ("Military" technically if their feet stance is correct). Not a lift you'll see 99.9% of people do.

    As with incline bench, anything more than 45 degrees recruits mostly the shoulders. Standing though, you're recruiting stabilzers more and also offloading some of it onto your lats- think stiff-arm lat pressdowns, especially doing them wide grip but then you are resisting the negative motion.

    I imagine the guys you saw were doing them very light... perhaps bar only (?) whether they knew what they were doing or not.
     
  2. fuji

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    Had a huge man roid rage at me for asking for a spot today. Yelled a bit and then told me to use a fucking smith machine. Cary Grants right. Its just an incline bench press.
     
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    ^^Except for the lat recruitment/gravity from standing... 45 degree bench is primarily hitting the chest- standing you're hitting the delts for the most part.
     
  4. fuji

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    Didn't notice he said they were standing up. Never seen anyone do that.
     
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    I lol'd at roid rage.
     
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    Had a huge man roid rage at me for asking for a spot today. Yelled a bit and then told me to use a fucking smith machine. Cary Grants right. Its just an incline bench press.

    sad. rage at a simple asking for a spot what would a real issue cause him to do.
     
  7. fuji

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    Its quite funny watching him try to skip rope. Because of how huge he is he usually only gets like 3 hops and then trips himself up and fucking roars every time.
     
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    You're prob'ly better off not getting a spot from him. He'll be pissed off you couldn't squeeze out that last rep and drop the bar on your head... [​IMG]
     
  9. Cool The Kid

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    Genuine curiousity

    What is the value of lifts that sacrifice weight to recruit more stabilizers

    I mean right now I bench primarily with DBs cause I was cheating one side w/BBs.

    But I see dudes benching with their feet on the bench at what I assume is a lower weight than what they could do "planted". Is it just personal choice/broscience or are there legit benefits
     
  10. bbaquiran

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    About that. I saw something really weird yesterday and wasn't really sure of what to think of it. There were two guys doing a military press inclined. Like, they were standing up like standard presses and pushing the barbell away from them in a 45 degree way. Was frikking weird. Anyone saw something similar?

    Maybe it was an oldschool olympic press? It's been discussed on Rippetoe's forum.
    http://startingstrength.com/articles...ress_starr.pdf
    http://startingstrength.com/index.ph...th_tommy_suggs
     
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    Nah, it was really just a standing incline bench press basically. I don't really believe these guys were at a level where that exercise would have been more beneficial than a standard press and bench press routine but oh well, it is better than curls.
     
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    I track my gym success with a list of denim cuts I can no longer wear.

    I finally got a pair of Epaulet trousers and was pretty disappointed when even the fat guy cut didn't fit my ass/thighs...

    I pr'd again for my squat last week... so thats cool..
     
  13. Pennglock

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    Do you guys ever run into dudes in your gym that are just naturally freakishly strong?

    Yesterday this kid asked me for a spot on the benchpress, he was about 6'3" and couldnt have weighed 175lbs. When I saw he had 225lb loaded up I thought, oh boy, time to get my upright rows in. He then proceeds to bang out 8 easy reps.

    Wtf, he looked a guy who ought to struggle with 135!
     
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    Do you guys ever run into dudes in your gym that are just naturally freakishly strong?

    Yesterday this kid asked me for a spot on the benchpress, he was about 6'3" and couldnt have weighed 175lbs. When I saw he had 225lb loaded up I thought, oh boy, time to get my upright rows in. He then proceeds to bang out 8 easy reps.

    Wtf, he looked a guy who ought to struggle with 135!


    that kind of thing is pretty common. some people at certain weights just have natural inclinations to certain lifts due to leverage and biomechanics.

    however, I wouldn't call what you saw "freakishly" strong by a long shot.
     
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    that kind of thing is pretty common. some people at certain weights just have natural inclinations to certain lifts due to leverage and biomechanics.

    however, I wouldn't call what you saw "freakishly" strong by a long shot.


    This point is he possessed the exact opposite kind of build that would give a guy any kind of advantage in the bench press. Long, twig-like arms and a 38" chest with no meat on it.

    The kid could probably bench over 300lb from what I saw. In my 15 years in various weightrooms, it's not something Ive seen more than once or twice. He was freakishly strong.
     
  17. Cool The Kid

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    Well FWIW even w/all that strength he has no chest or arms visually [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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    This point is he possessed the exact opposite kind of build that would give a guy any kind of advantage in the bench press. Long, twig-like arms and a 38" chest with no meat on it.

    The kid could probably bench over 300lb from what I saw. In my 15 years in various weightrooms, it's not something Ive seen more than once or twice. He was freakishly strong.


    did you see him bench over 300? no.

    but even if he could and you're calling him "freakishly strong," what do you call everyone in the 181 weight class benching over 350 with a pause on the chest? and what do you call the ones doing 400+???

    call someone "freakishly strong" is reserved for those like konstantinovs and tom martin, not some kid in the gym doing 8 reps of 225. if he did what he did, then he's very strong for his bw, I give him that. but freakishly? get the fuck out of here with that.

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    also, I should cut back down to 170-175 and rep out 225 eight times for you so you can double to number of times you've seen someone do that.
     
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    today some skinny-fat dude was complaining loudly in the locker room about how he can't squat or dead b/c of his "injured" lower back and how those movements are very dangerous to your back. I almost had a mind on me to say: "Maybe YOU just don't know how to fucking squat" But I restrained myself.
    Similar incident at my gym today.... Guy: "You know, squatting that deep is going to ruin your knees." Me: "No.... you just tell yourself that because it's difficult and you don't wanna do it." Guy proceeds to go back to doing 20 rep sets of seated calf raises.
     

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