Random health and exercise thoughts

Discussion in 'Health & Body' started by Eason, Dec 20, 2009.

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  1. deadly7

    deadly7 Senior member

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    Just start eating a little more clean and tone your diet in a little. You don't need to start full-on cutting. For example: instead of going for high-fat/high-carb sources of protein, go lean for part of a meal. It won't slow your gains too much.
     
  2. jarude

    jarude Senior member

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    there is a lot of hivemind itt wrt "bulk at all costs/you need to put on more size before you cut otherwise you'll be DYEL cancer victim you pussy." im not hating on anyone, but it comes from people who either are lean or have/had very little trouble being lean in the past. yeah you wanna be big dude but cutting/bulking/size/whatever is a 2 steps forward, 1 step back process. you have to be mentally OK with taking one step back and I promise you the world that even if you bulked for another 8 weeks you would still be just as skeptical and self-conscious of your bicep size when you start dropping scale weight than if you had started cutting today.

    if you don't change your thinking and attitude about bulk/size then you run the risk of being one of those sad permabulker dudes who are terrified of dropping below 15% bodyfat because their arms might shrink. imo, the longer you spend in this "need to bulk" mode, the harder it will be for you mentally to stick with a cut and the more your psyche and self-esteem will suffer. i was like this for the longest time until injuries fucked my training over and i was back to nearly starters and semi-dyel mode, but it was good for my psyche as i'm not constantly hung up on size at all costs now.

    imo if you've bulked your way 30+lbs from true skinny bitch origins and have to question whether or not you've put on too much BF, you should probably think about cutting sooner rather than later. you're not going to look like a dyelbro just because you dropped some bodyfat, nor is this going to prevent you from reaching your goals in the future.
     
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  3. GraphicNovelty

    GraphicNovelty Senior member

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    it's just taken stinger to get so long to get to this point in the process where he's actually making strength/size gains i just feel like why derail it now that it's actually happening.
     
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    Khayembii Communique Senior member

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    If you increase your reps on your sets you can tone out your muscles/abs without having to tweak your diet.
     
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    GraphicNovelty Senior member

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  6. stinger70

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    jarude you are spot on with that really, im just getting used to filling out clothes etc and now i have to shrink back down, but it has to happen, at least then i will have a leaner base to bulk from. But as GN said im just reaching a better level of size and strength, so its hard to go backwards.I'm gonna spend a couple of weeks getting back on track since i just had a week off from illness, so getting my lifts up and eating plenty, and then transition into eating just below maintenance and see what happens.
     
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    Rambo Senior member

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    ok, imma finally kop some bronkaid. its 25mg of feddy per day, along with 200 asprin and how much caffeine?
     
  8. TeeKay

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    Stinger --- might seem like a silly question but...what is your GOAL? People get too caught up in the "should I cut or bulk" business based on their current bodies rather than focusing on obtaining the physique they want. If you weigh 150 and your goal is to ultimately weigh 135, well you should probably cut. If you want to weigh 165 and by shredded, you're going to be bulking for quite some time.

    My recommendation is to figure out what your goal physique actually is and take it from there.
     
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    200 mg. don't do aspirin (will ruin your stomach lining and give you ulcers with the bronkaid and caffeine and has untested limited effectiveness). i do green tea extract instead
     
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    If you cut the smart way, I really don't think it will do as much damage as you believe.

    I'm in the transition between a lean bulk and cut atm. Have been doing Leangains / IF since I started lifting more seriously, so I will continue to do everything in their fashion. I reached 14-15% bf two months ago and while I def could have continued with my strength and size gains, I decided to cut since I didn't like the puffy look of my face and overall appearance.

    Now I'm basically doing a recomp before going into a real cut at the final stages. Currently eating maintenance +10% on workout days and -30% on rest days by carb / macro cycling. After a month of gradually decreasing the calories from my bulking intake, I def see a change on my physique (good definition, no carb face, etc) while still making strength gains. From my experience on cutting, it limits your endurance on longer sets a lot more than raw strength because of the lower amount of carbs and calorie intake. That's why Leangains uses the Reverse Pyramid Training setup for rep and set schemes. Go all out on the first set on compounds, then back of the weight, do 1-2 reps more and keep the form intact. You might also want to cut a set (3 to 2) on assistance movements.

    As long as you get enough protein, rest enough (3 workouts per week is pretty ideal on a cut, since that gives you one more calorie deficit day) and focus on the compounds, you're not gonna end up weak after cutting. Just check the client results on Leangains.com.

    There's also some benefits of being very lean, for instance being more carb tolerant and setup for faster gains due to your body taking up the food better or something (can't find source - it's on Leangains or rippedbody.jp)
     
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    +1
     
  12. TeeKay

    TeeKay Senior member

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    ^ you forgot the ultimate benefit of being very lean....which is, of course, the bitches. Bitches, man.
     
  13. mrchariybrown

    mrchariybrown Senior member Affiliate Vendor

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    I thought this was the case too. But it seems that most attractive girls I know/I've known do not like the super lean look.

    Most much prefer the 10-14% range.

    Not to say all do of course. A small percentage like the 7-8% look, some like the slightly chubby/burly look, but most of them seem to like their men in the 10-14%.

    (But to be honest, most don't even care thattttt much about your bf lol)

    My girlfriend just wants me to get heavier and have a thicker core, which works for me because that's what I want.
     
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    As noted earlier, I usually don't start the day without cracking open a can of low-carb Monster. Does this negate the need for the caffeine pill element of the ECA stack?
     
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    +1

    Unless the girl is absurdly shallow, most will end up romanticizing your physique if they're already into you.
     

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