Random health and exercise thoughts

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  1. Coldsnap

    Coldsnap Senior member

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    How much do you weigh and height?
     


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    conceptionist Senior member

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    I'm 6'3, 185 lbs. Gonna bulk up to 190 or maybe 190 ans see how I feel/look. I don't think I would want to gain more weight with my lifts this low. Just gonna be fat that way.

    I don't know if it's because I'm tall and have long arms but if I tuck my elbows to the sides, the bar ends up touching the middle of my belly.There's no way I can keep the bar in a straight path up if I'm tucking a good amount. Maybe I've not understood it correctly?




    Edit: Just read this.
    I used a narrower grip before. I had my ring finger on the bar ring and changed to index finger on it because a wider grip supposedly activates your pecs more. No idea if it's true or not. I could bench 10 lbs or so more with first grip width.
     
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    jarude Senior member

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    im going to put this out there: anyone who is even slightly unsure about their bench form should start pausing at the bottom

    edit: boom 3000
     
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  4. Coldsnap

    Coldsnap Senior member

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    Yea dude gain some weight. I weight more than you and I'm 5'7. You have the genetics to be way heavier and still be jacked, do it.
     


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    conceptionist Senior member

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    Oops, I meant 190-195. If my lifts still go up at that stage, I could go on to 200. Only problem is that by then all nice clothes I've got would not fit. Bye bye a Toj trousers and nice outerwear/knits/shirts.

    Joshua, what problems do you see with my bench form? You've got a sound approach to lifting.
     


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    Coldsnap Senior member

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    That does suck but don't let clothes hamper your progress. I've bought like 3 whole wardrobes in the past 2 years, lesson learned always size up 2 in jeans and only buy expensive shoes.
     


  7. mrchariybrown

    mrchariybrown Senior member Affiliate Vendor

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    What's more important to you? Having a strong bench or getting most out of your movement for size?
     


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    joshuadowen Senior member

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    I know there is a school of thought that says arch your back as much as possible while benching. The idea (as I understand it) is that this decreases the angle between your arms and torso (like a decline press) and allows you to press more weight. I'm sure that this is true, but unless you are a competition lifter where every pound counts, I'm don't think that the increased pressing capacity justifies the risk of taking your spine out of a solid, neutral position. The risk of spinal injury during a bench press is pretty low, as you aren't really loading your spine, but I find that people who get used to benching exaggerated spinal flexion tend to have that same exaggerated flexion when they overhead press - and that poses a much greater risk.

    In general, I believe that all lifts should be performed with your spine in a neutral position and your core completely locked down. For benching, this means low back pressed firmly against the bench and feet flat on the floor. You are pretty tall so that shouldn't be a problem. For shorter people (like me) it's sometimes necessary to put some plates down under your feet so they aren't dangling. Scapular retraction and external rotation of the shoulders are also important, but it sounds and looks like you've already got that part down.

    Again, and because I know I'm going to catch some flack for this post, I don't think you are doing it WRONG. I think that you've followed an approach endorsed by a large group of powerlifters. I just think that this approach doesn't necessarily make the most sense for people who aren't competitive lifters. The risk of injury isn't worth a 5-10 percent increase in your pressing capacity, particularly as you aren't anywhere near theoretical maximum pressing capacity for a guy your size.
     


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    Coldsnap Senior member

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    My coach use to program soft presses for me.. I hated them so much, extremely hard
     


  11. Lagrangian

    Lagrangian Senior member

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    yeah sots press is pretty fucking horrible


    true patriot detected, no srsly theyre good headphones.
     
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    fuji Senior member

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    I heard they make weird noises when the cable touches your clothes because they're noise canceling and therefore are shit for lifting, is this true? Gonna buy some HD open ear ones so I can show bishes them and pretend I give a fuck about music quality.
     


  13. conceptionist

    conceptionist Senior member

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    Ummm... don't know really.
    I have no intentions of getting huge, but of course that's not gonna happen overnight.
    I still don't know how far I want to take lifting so I guess I'll just want to be strong for my size, if that makes sense.

    Would strength equal powerlifting style and size bodybuilding style (very simplified)?
    I'd rather have the physique of a very lean bodybuilder than a super strong powerlifter.

    tldr: I just want to get my bench to 100 kg while not having a bodyweight of more than 90. I believe my 1 RM is 75.
     
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    i wouldn't know i don't listen to music when i lift
     


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    I'm regurgitating, but Rippetoe says to bench flat footed with leg drive and to utilize the arch that one can generate with that foot placement. The arch and leg drive provides stability on the bench and via black magic generates some additional pressing power vs loose legs. The set up strikes a balance between muscular development and a maximum bench, which is a nod to the fact that competition powerlifters will often develop a huge beer belly or an extreme pointed-foot arch to knock inches off their press. Decisions you make regarding your bench form walk this line of bodybuilding, muscular development, and purely numbers oriented tweaks. I'm comfortable with the Rippetoe suggestions, but if toes down works best for you, it works best for you.
     


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