Discussion in 'Health & Body' started by Eason, Dec 20, 2009.
wha? weren't you the one excited by ex?
Are there any good ways to get around fucked up shoulders? One of them gets so badly aggravated by all movements on chest day, and i dont dare even work shoulders any more. Feels like it catches on the way down. Tried doing plenty of shoulder dislocations but im pretty sure it just makes things worse. I havent had much shoulder problems for ages, and my form, posture and warm up is better now than it ever was, so i dont understand why it is flaring up so bad.
I'm the king of shoulder problems. Where does it hurt?
When its hurting during a workout, if i press on the area behind the clavicle, to the back of the shoulder, it hurts a lot. I also get pain right in the front of the shoulder during pressing movements.
Haha I honestly don't care if I get the referral credit anymore. It's nice but I'd gladly pay the chump change it takes for constant access to John's advice/programming.
It is good to see guys that are serious about lifting get some proper guidance from guys that know what they're doing and have the experience and numbers to back it up, instead of trying to figure it out from a bunch of crappy info on the internet (a lot of the time, thread isn't an exception). If not John, I also suggest Chris Duffin (not sure if he still does online training) or Jason Manenkoff. I know for a fact those two guys know their shit and have the credentials, and I don't benefit from referring people to them at all. I'm sure there are more guys out there too but I can't back them up since I haven't worked with them or know them very well.
Lol what happened with you and him?
Bizarre comment. You worked with him for what, three months or less? And if he was such a waste of money, then...
So it sounded like under his watch, you were dropping fat, something I remember you posting about your struggles with. You sounded pretty impressed with the routine he gave you, too, so I'm not seeing how you "wasted" money, especially given how inexpensive his services are.
It'd be cool if you could elaborate on your grievances. It's kind of shitty to make it sound like John's services were useless without substantiating why, especially since it didn't sound like you were having issues while you were actually training under his watch.
Sounds like you are getting impingement in the socket. You need to get stability back before you can do anything. If you don't know what to do, go see a specialist.
Fat Gripz are also too pricey for my liking and since it's almost winter, I couldn't find any pool noodles to try TKJTG's DIY suggestion. So I wound up buying a couple of $2 12" x 12" dish rags from WalMart. Folded lengthwise and wrapped each one around the bar and voila, knockoff Fat Gripz.
My problem was that he completely dropped off. It's been 3 months since I've heard from him. He did teach me how to diet properly, which i said to the dude that PMed me. I write better workouts for myself and now that I'm familiar with dieting, it's just worked out better anyways.
I've never trained with anyone else, so I legitimately don't know: Is it normal for someone training you online to regularly contact you? I always just assumed John (or most other somewhat known trainers) have too many clients to make it logistically possible to call up all of his clients every week. I'll tell you this: I've been amazed at how quickly accessible he is. If I need to go over something with him, I can shoot him a text or an email and he responds within minutes most time and can usually do a phone call or Skype shortly after that. He's also quick to watch your videos and pass back advice / fixes.
Maybe it's just a case of different expectations, but communication with John is probably the last area of working with him that I would find myself taking issue with.
Dunno, maybe I'm just a shitty communicator then. Like I said thought it has worked out fine in the end.
edit: buy yea following his diet I had abs in like 2 weeks. Also with Carb Backloading too.
Sounds like you didn't allow your scapula to move while benching and now you've got an impingement in the back and a rc strain in the front.
of course, don't take my word for it, you should see a PT.
I hope what you're trying to say is simply don't be a gym retard who doesn't focus on technique (shouldn't that be half of what the DE days are?) and not that I should avoid westside at all costs, because I don't know what else to do
You nailed it on the head.
If someone here wants some other people to get training from, PM me.
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