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Random health and exercise thoughts

Discussion in 'Health & Body' started by Eason, Dec 20, 2009.

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  1. Flame

    Flame Senior member

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    Just RICE.
     
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  2. Coldsnap

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    RICE doesn't do shit.
     
  3. indesertum

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    should i deadlift?

    RICE really helped with my lower back. if it's ever in pain and I ice and heat pack alternate pain is almost gone next day
     
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    At the quad-hip insertion point? Or just in the muscle itself? Prognosis? Rehab I'm assuming. It can't be a major tear.
     
  5. Khayembii Communique

    Khayembii Communique Senior member

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    Squart day. Fucking hyped, can't wait for work to be over. Hitting 290 for reps tonight, one week from today should finally break 300.
     
  6. conceptionist

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    This is probably gonna come off as dumb and broscience, but I'll ask anyway:

    I've read that muscle gains start to come really slow after 2-5 years of regular training. I started to get serious with lifting (proper routine and diet) about a year ago, but had gone to the gym doing shit for 2 years prior to that. Now, I'm cutting which obviously hurt my gains.

    Does this mean that I'm throwing away my potential noob gains? Would I count those early years of curls and machines into regular lifting? Am I basically wasting my time and gains cutting at this point (I couldn't stand >15% bf though)?

    TLDR: Is it the time that you've trained on a good routine or the actual gains you've made that determines when your gains slow down?

    I probably shouldn't worry about this and just lift heavy and eat well, but the thought of soon getting gains at a snails pace absolutely terrifies me. And yes, my lifts are still low.
     
  7. Khayembii Communique

    Khayembii Communique Senior member

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    Gains are based on how far you are from your genetic limits. Ceteris paribus, you will have fast gains when you first start lifting because you are so far out from your genetic limits (and deconditioned), and as you come closer your progress will slow - recovery time will need to be increased, gains will come slower, more assistance work will be required, etc.

    Do what you want. You will be fine.
     
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  8. I<3Bacon

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    Jeez, sounds painful.

    Same glute activation problem here. Last reps in the set, left knee would cave in and weight would shift onto the ball of my foot. Wound up doing a major deload and squatting off a box with a mini-band around my knees. Pretty ego-crushing, but my hams and glutes are perpetually sore now.
     
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    gym is closed for the easter holidays

    wat do

    goddamn easter what are you even good for
     
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  10. Cool The Kid

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    Something to consider is how optimally you are training. I have been lifting for ~5 years now but have probably only been training + eating properly for the past year and a half. Most people probably spend 3-4 years just figuring shit out.
     
  11. Eason

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    According to the PT/Chiropractor, he'll need several weeks of pure cash injection for me to find that out


    At the quad-hip insertion, somewhere in the mess of fascia. My rehab basically consists of 1. learning how to walk again and 2. learning how to activate my glutes
     
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    DJEL?
     
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  13. I<3Bacon

    I<3Bacon Senior member

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    U WOT M8?
     
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    ahahaha

    best post-reply tandem in awhile
     
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    It's the actual gains that you have made. The potential to make the noob gains will always be there until they are fully made.


    Some guy at the gym today loaded up 200kg on the squat rack, him and his spotter both ego lifting using 1/2 rom, squatted down, the weight folded him over forward, he couldnt lean back and he bailed 200kg over his head onto the safety pins. I have no idea how he didnt get hurt either from being snapped in half or from it rolling over his neck and head.
     
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    disregard the whole idea of noob gains and what they are and when they stop. i think its somewhat overblown; when you start lifting, gains come easy, and then the longer you're at it, gains don't come as easily - thats it. i think its very hard to satisfy that question the way you've worded it; i may have exhausted my noob gains on SL and plateaued, but then i got coached and i made ironclad progress on a new routine without stalling on anything for months. are those noob gains too? maybe, but ultimately it doesn't matter one bit. i dont want to talk too much about noob gains since i think you're barking up the wrong tree (yes I know you've admitted to this), but i think in a very general sense, gains are when

    [everyone's body structure/proportions/existing strength/propensity for certain movements] + specific programming + gains acquired during said programming = X level of strength.

    this is largely a load of horseshit since the quality of programming and how well you respond to it has a lot to do with how you progress when you're a beginner/intermediate, but in a very very broad and intentionally vague sense i think that's how you could define it. i think "noob gains" stop when progressing past X level of strength becomes difficult and the programming/diet/whatever has to be adjusted. in fact you should probably ignore everything before this sentence because it is too vague and misleading, but i suppose its an answer for the sake of having an answer. but by answer i really just mean my take on things, so take it with a grain of salt... fuck. anyways...

    instead of being concerned with the noob gains thing, i really think you should be concerned with your attitude towards progress. getting gains at a snails pace is still getting gains, which is all you can ever hope for. if you lift long enough, it will happen - and what do you have to gain from being terrified of slow gains? think about why you got into lifting in the first place; you want to look better and be stronger, and now you continue to lift for the sake of lifting because you enjoy it. making slow gains is not mutually exclusive with the reasons you are lifting; its part of it. i think as you get stronger, you'll manage your expectations better; surely everyone gets bummed out the first time they stall on something after crushing it for months, but that same guy who keeps kicking ass two years down the road doing the right things consistently will be happier than a pig in shit when his squat goes up 10 lbs in a one month cycle. you'll appreciate the slow gains more than you will appreciate the easy gains since you had to work so hard for them.

    if you manage to stay injury free in the long term and enjoy the small victories every week, you will succeed. worry about consistently doing the right things to get you to your goals and you win.
     
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  17. mrchariybrown

    mrchariybrown Senior member Affiliate Vendor

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    Eat and lift heavy.

    If you aren't getting bigger, eat more and lift heavier.

    If that ain't working and you still aren't happy, get some test, eat even more, and lift even heavier (0).
     
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  18. fuji

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    Fuck yeah I can do clapping dips. I got good at them so fast, I could only do 8 about a month ago and they were ugly as fuck and now I can do 30 or 10 with 20kg chained to myself. Also land mine presses are sick, I can see them being very good for people with shoulder problems too, but even for people without them they just feel really good, they hit your abs pretty hard too. Mate just finished his test cycle, got up from like 165lb to 210lb and has abs at that weight. Looks fucking swole, he's being a moody bitch now though because the PCT has started and he is having too many women feels. Brb why am I fat, brb do I even lift, brb im a fucking beta bitch male. He actually got pound for pound quite a bit weaker, he didn't get that much stronger, just put a shit ton of muscle on. Also styleforum, I am very excited I am going to a house party on Tuesday, haven't been to one of these in 2 years, it should be exciting, ill post pics of any sloots I acquire. I'm going to have to drink though, which will be a bit shit.
     
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  19. conceptionist

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    Cool. Thanks for the replys guys.

    I'm not concerned with progress being slow (I mean, I cut while still having low numbers), I just want to be sure I can reach my goals in reasonable time.
     
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    Any of you guys own what you'd consider to be an above-average chef's knife? I've had my block-o-knives since Christmas 2007, so I'm feeling like I should upgrade at least the chef's knife. Not looking to spend a crazy amount of money. Also need some reassurance that I'm not going to amputate a finger so long as I'm careful with one of these suckers.
     

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