Discussion in 'Health & Body' started by Eason, Dec 20, 2009.
Because one has better athletic carryover than the other?
If Flame is a throwing athlete, sure, benching is good. I don't think there's a single top shotputter that can't bench over 455. I don't know the level of athleticism that Flame has, but unless he is a thrower, I don't see how benching should be a main movement. In basketball, it would be very demphasized (vs lower body work and second pull work), but sure, put it in rotation.
The point i am making is my issue with how Flame worded it.
Almost enough to make me want to crossfit. New coach at my gym.
Strong neck presence.
How important is it that I eat foods that aren't protein sludge? Need to invent a better name for it.
Thanks, yes I'm a sprinter, and yes upper body strength helps us explode out of the block and having upper body power helps to power through my stride.
And upper body strength is essential for ball. It doesn't help your jumpshot, but it is essential in boxing out, finishing with contact, and setting screens.
[QUOTE name = "knucks"]The point i am making is my issue with how Flame worded it.[/QUOTE]
Cool dude. Just that my track coach wants us to gain upper body power, and has been advocating a powerlifting bench for the past few months. For above reasons, please see this:
[QUOTE name = "knucks"] it would be very demphasized (vs lower body work and second pull work), but sure, put it in rotation.[/QUOTE]
and seriously, I have been playing ball for over 10 years, yes lower body power is more needed for the sport, but competing @ inter-varsity level (which I do) upper body strength helps a ton in finishing layups when I'm drawing contact with 6'3 to 6'5 post players. Essential for me since I'm a slashing wing player.
I have an uneducated hunch that a strict press would be better than a bench for many sports.
This is the best at one and good at none vs. good at most argument. The reason foot-race milers on the track are so fast is because they are all atrophied and can't do a pullup. If my sports were my job, I would sacrifice general fitness for them. But they are not, so I prefer to be generally fit (strength via powerlifting, quick with oly lifting/sprinting, nimble with cross training sports) and do some sport specific training. A general fitness routine won't make you look like a musclebound freak, but it does a body good and is probably better for longevity.
And a push press even better.
Man, I really miss O-lifting
Man, I really want to try O-lifting.
O-lifters: Do you compete or just do it for fun? How many times a week do you train? What do you do exactly? How did you get started?
6 (this wk 9)
talked to my coach
I'm getting a steroid shot in my rotator cuff today.. it was caused by stress of olympic lifting FWIW
edit: Also all my pants are super loose around the waist now FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
I've been eating like crazy and I've gained about 8 lbs since hitting my absolute low (though probably only like 5 since I started bulking, and I'm sure a decent portion of that is water). I've noticed fat gain yet I can still see my serratus so I'm not too worried about it. Apparently this bulk is going well, though I haven't compared progress photos and it's tough to tell from looking in the mirror every day. Lifts have been going up fairly consistently though so that's good.
PWO meal yesterday was a box of Kraft mac and cheese with two turkey dogs mixed in, some extra cheese added in and three glasses of 2% milk. I'm having a lot of trouble eating enough calories/protein, though I'm going through about a tub of cottage cheese or greek yogurt a day.
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