Discussion in 'Health & Body' started by Eason, Dec 20, 2009.
Brings back memories, and good ones at that. I spent lots of time in that gym, though it wasn't named McComas then. I was there when McComas was prez - he died way too young.
Wow strong VT presence in this thread
Also, lulz @ detention slip.
Was gonna apply here if I didn't get into uni in the UK. Hate the US uni system so much, brb doing useless subjects for 3 years and then specializing with only 1 year left.
Not sure OB will see it that way bearing in mind how your version of events go.
Sounds like he deserved a smack but you should have done it in his face IMO, without knowing how quickly it all happened.
did he zyzz?
Quote:1. Again, the reason to do push press and push jerk from a shoulder point of view is that these movements allow you to get more weight overhead than strict pressing. This will strengthen the overhead lockout position, which will translate into increased strength across the entire range of overhead movements. 2. Even if you are squatting and deadlifting, it's not overkill on your hips and legs to push press or push jerk a few times a month. These are very different movements, and while they utilize many of the same muscle groups, they use them in pretty different ways. The explosive power required for a push jerk is very different from the slow strength required for a squat. 3. This notion that programming MUST be done on a weekly calendar is bizarre and not particularly helpful. Sure, anyone serious about strength training should be squatting a few times per week, pressing a few times per week, and pulling something off the floor at least once. That doesn't mean the squatting, pressing, or pulling must involve the exact same workout in exactly the same schedule every week. If you are going to press once or twice per week, you can rotate through a number of different pressing movements and rep schemes. Bench press, strict press, push press, push jerk, dumbell presses, dips, pushups, and handstand pushups are all great pressing exercises, and each challenge your body in a slightly different way. It's one thing if an athlete is a competitive powerlifter trying to get his benchpress number as high as possible, but for an amateur who is just looking to get his shoulders stronger, variety is your best friend. Excelling at each of these movements across varied rep schemes will lead to progression with all pressing movements.
I generally agree with the guy you responded to, despite the relative strength of your position.
His line about overdoing the legs is definitely off, however while your statement #1 has a plausible ring to it, it is a leap to go from "strengthen lockout" to "stronger overall press" especially as a blanket statement. I would suggest most people get stuck at the nose on the press and an assistance movement with momentum will not train that weak spot. Ironically enough, this is basically the straps argument all over again, where my original statement was that it has more to do with personal preference than anything else. I'm just suggesting that the press has very shitty assistance exercises, to the point that it gets hard to argue with someone who trains the press by pressing.
To comment on the last line - "variety is your best friend" - I will add to that, "and your worst enemy."
Yeah, I think I'm going to do seated press instead of standing for the next 4 weeks or so, then back to standing...just alternate between the two. I did seated this morning and was surprised at how little weight I could do. It was pretty much identical to my strict standing press. I'm guessing that means my limiting factor really is my shoulders, and that my core and stabilizers are pretty solid.
Oh well, we'll see how I progress through the weeks.
I'm a Virginia resident (transplant) but no love for VT from me.
Used oly platform for DL'ing, was a good time. Was nice to be able to freely roll the weights on the floor and picking up 25s that were the size of 45s but super light had a certain novelty to it. LIfting itself was less successful. Had done 3 x 245lbs last time, tried 255lbs today but could only get 2 up and form was not good - too much back and shoulders, not enough hips/thighs. I think I need to drop down the weight and build back up. DL is nothing compared to what most here do but have seen nice aesthetic gains on thighs (particularly lower thigh near the knee) since I started.
Brain tumor, IIRC. I had an opportunity to meet him on a few occasions, which is a privilege not often afforded to students. He was a good president.
a weird thing that has helped my pressing a lot (not that I do that much, not the best jerk assistance) was to really get my lats in play when driving the bar off my chest.
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