Discussion in 'Health & Body' started by Eason, Dec 20, 2009.
Squatted two days in a row (Monday, Tuesday).
No PRs were set cleaning off the blocks today
do you OL guys feel like there's any benefit to trying to learn the bar technique myself for kicks? im always around my home setup and want to eventually do OL, just cant afford right now. any point or am i most likely just going to develop bad habits? i feel like i would be getting a head start on mobility issues, ie overhead squatting
shit just looks cool, you know
I do exactly what you just mentioned, I just practice the movements mainly working on my mobility and try to get the form the best I can.
yeah, it would just be with the bar, i have no interest in breaking myself
yes and no. learning this stuff on your own is quite difficult and requires constant attention and a lot of trawling calstrength, cathletics, goheavy and what have you, probably means taking a lot of video as well. i'm not saying it can't be done but as you mentioned EVERY single shit rep you happen to do you'll have to undo later.. unlearning stuff like arm pulling or banging the bar with the hips etc. is nasty.
do OHS and do mobility work, that'll help you a TON when you finally convert haha
and never use the mirror if you have one.
also for stronger dudes just the bar will be way too light to actually have a big influence on technique when the bar goes up to working weights. it's all too easy for novices to just end up using all the wrong muscles for putting the bar up (say, arm pulling in the snatch) and then find out when they put some plates on that the shit just won't go up.
but if you're patient and stay focused, why not - don't let my crappy explanations dishearten you
e. for clarification, for me technique work usually means abt 75-85% loads, staying in that 'springy' zone, not so heavy as to fuck you up, yet not light enough so the bar just flies around
Just since Lang mentioned it, I'll go on record for the 50th time in this thread and say OHS might be the best lift ever.
I started to do Oly movements but didn't trust myself not to fuck myself up.
Jarude you know what's a fairly cost-effective way to train explosiveness?
but in all fairness, if you can FS & OHS properly, like thick solid tight properly, have a solid overhead position with the bar, can go ATG you're pretty much perfectly set for starting
if you can do stuff like drop snatches etc. that's even better, you'll be snatching in no time
I clean and I've never been taught formally, fuk da polic.
Intradesting movie, don't know how I never heard of it.
youre just too good you know, some people are just born to lift
Should definitely watch that movie if powerlifting interests you or if you want to understand the mentality behind a lot of powerlifters.
Not Jarude obviously but training explosiveness isn't about specific movements. It's more dependent upon load and rate of force development.
For instance you can have higher rate of force development in say a squat at 50% of your max than you may have at 80% of your max with a clean.
In general, lower loads (40-60% of 1RM) done as powerfully (great amounts of force quickly) as possible will train explosiveness.
lifting movies topped out with arnold's explanation about how lifting weights is like busting a nut in pumping iron
e: i dont particularly care about explosiveness though i guess it goes hand in hand with OL. i do have one kb, cant even remember how much it weighs cuz my gf is borrowing it but yeah i used it for swings and whatnot.
Grab bar, move fast.
I made the terrible mistake of cycling 40miles on Monday since it was so nice outside and gym was closed. Then went for 3RM front squat yesterday. Needless to say, snatch session today was abysmal-- couldn't even get 100kg. I feel so worthless.
Man, I wish not making PRs every time was the worst in this sport. Do Oly long enough and there will be times when just matching your PR from 2 months ago will seem impossible and you'll dwell at 10-15kg less and wonder why the fuck it's not working and whether or not you should just give up completely. Then one week you'll match your PR and then the next week you make a new one, and the world will seem complete.
Haha. I know the KB originated with big burly Russians, but frankly when I see kettlebells at a gym and they range from 5-40 pounds, I can't help but immediately assume the target audience for KB are women. No man worth his chest hair should touch anything under 2 pood IMHO.
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