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Random fashion thoughts

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by thekunk07, Aug 1, 2009.

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  1. myshoeiswet

    myshoeiswet Senior member

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    Anybody have recs for a relatively cheap white hidden placket dress shirt?
     
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    Quote:Yeah, the forum it self got a whole lot narrower and the bottom half of the page, is completely white, which looks sort of weird.


    As a european the ad, is completely pointless to me, as I have no way of getting there (besides flying 16hours).

    Regarding the second thing you posted about, the wraparound ads are not for the Styleforum Trunk Show that is being held this weekend in New York, but actually for a service called "Trunk Club", where you pay to have a monthly box sent to you with clothes that are pre-selected for you.
     
  3. A Fellow Linguist

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    Oh good, I was getting tired of carefully curating my private select of timeless gear.
     
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    oh thank god that fixed it.

    as for trunk club, i'd be curious to see how much business they generate from SF. i would think that people who frequent this site enjoy clothing and really, more than anything, searching out and purchasing that clothing themselves. but i guess there is a certain percentage who give the forum a try then think f this i wish someone would just pick this out for me.
     
  5. Noctone

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    between the legion of people that browse but never (or very rarely) post and the idiots that want to wear whatever ryan gosling is wearing, i'm sure there's a healthy target market here for trunk club
     
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  6. Dbear

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    I know some people that use trunk club, but they would never really venture on SF. It's more of a convenience thing with disposable income.

    I wonder how much it costs, everything is probably retail + upcharge for "curating it" and all this marketing.
     
  7. LA Guy

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    It's actually not a bad idea, and depends on execution. For the most part, members of the forum are more interested, and know more, about clothing, then most people, but it's hard to find "new" things, and this is a big conundrum the more and more we are online. Online "discoverability" is actually a really tough problem, not just in clothing, Ever get bored of the same old suggestions cycling over and over again in your NetFlix queue? I was talking about the death of Blockbuster earlier this week, and my opinion is that unlike, say, the demise of VHS, there is a real loss, in that we have lost something valuable - the ability to browse randomly in aisles and finding new stuff you'd never have thought of otherwise - without something analogous taking its place.

    There are different forms of discoverability. Two of the most important are social, and the other is serendipitous, independent, discovery. While things like Styleforum has made social discovery more accessible (before the interwebz, we'd not be all gathered here talking about clothing, the business of clothing, and the many topics that revolve around clothing), serendipitous discovery has really not been figured out to any satisfactory degree.

    Things like Trunk Club (and there are several companies like this, Trunk Club is one of the more ambitious), attempt to address this. You tell them what you like, and the personal shoppers pick out a bunch of stuff that you might like. In my opinion, if you find just one thing new, per shipment, that you like, that's a real success. Of course, the question is whether this can happen.

    Oh yeah. If any of you can make it (unfortunately, I bust a lot of blood into my right eye a few days ago and won't be able to travel). go to our trunk show. Likelihood is that you'll find something new there, and if you are denim or Japanese streetwear style inclined, and @gdl203 's selection Big John and Ts(S) and Eo to to does not suffice, Blue in Green is right next door.
     
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  8. Noctone

    Noctone Senior member

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    Either I'm not following you correctly or your point is bollocks. I find new things all the time, and it's only because of the internet in general and this community in particular that I can (take special note that I said "can" and not "do"). The internet opens up a whole world of possibilities that previously were only available to those living in major cities.
     
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    I don't think fok is saying that you don't find anything new - the internet definitely opens up possibilities. I'd never know about any of the stuff I wear now without styleforum. My impression is that fok is talking about the kind of thing where maybe you're in the library looking for a book, and something totally unrelated catches your eye. You find a lot of cool stuff that way.
     
  10. Noctone

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    And my point is most people never had a library to browse.
     
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    Discoverability is an issue that entire industries have been struggling with. That's not an argument, it's a fact. Correlation online is great, but discoverability is very difficult - you can find new things, but they tend to be in the same "solution space", so to speak. There is no online equivalent of looking at the biography section, and then turning around, and seeing a great cookbook, or maybe some great stationary, even, just because of the layout of the bookstore. There is no equivalent of finding a dozen brands you've never heard about as you wind your way from the front of the store to the back of the store to find some jeans. There is no equivalent of walking down a shop-filled street, and finding a great pair of sneakers just because you happened to look inside a store window as you were walking to ye old Goth Ninja store. Online, you will find your virtual experience an entire row of goth ninja stores, or two dozen stores that all carry Common Projects (and they often carry similar other brands. They may be all over the world, but they will all be remarkably similar.

    Definitely, the advent of online has made things a lot more accessible to people outside of major metropolitan areas. That's also not in dispute.
     
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  12. LA Guy

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    I'm actually saying both of these things:
    1) Social discoverability can be really great, and the internet definitely opens this up. You are going to learn more cool stuff about clothes here then you would from all your offline friends combined (that obviously doesn't go for everyone, but it's generally true).
    2) Yeah, you never find the cool history of the Ming dynasty that is randomly placed next to the graphic novels.
     
  13. LA Guy

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    You are right. That's not in dispute. But the loss of the library is nonetheless a real loss.
     
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    Sorry but I just find that to be a fatuous philosophical sentiment. You'll have to forgive me for not giving a shit if a more democratic marketplace comes at the expense of the privileged people's ability to peruse (which actually hasn't been especially minimized as far as I can tell).

    And it's not entirely as if you can't stumble onto something unexpected while looking for something else when shopping online. One could browse Black Celebration looking for Schneider and discover Devoa, or Maas & Stacks looking for Siki Im and discover Dana Lee, or any other number of examples. I had no fucking clue about Rota or Luigi Bianchi Mantova until I was perusing NMWA for Buttero boots.
     
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    How did most people in developed countries not have libraries?
     
  16. Bam!ChairDance

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    I have a good feeling everyone in this discussion has a completely different idea about what's being discussed
     
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    I just found sea monkey porn while searching for Acne and Guidi products together, so I got that little bit of "discoverability" going for me.

    :foo:
     
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  18. gettoasty

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    Fok's post too next level thinking
     
  19. FlyingMonkey

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    Sounded like a clear and understandable explanation of some basic principles in e-commerce to me...
     
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  20. oboy_oboy

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    I love this thread. I would buy you all virtual whiskey right now if I could.
     
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