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Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by thekunk07, Aug 1, 2009.

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  1. bryce126

    bryce126 Senior Member

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    Seems like lots of rick/julius/bbs/damir basics are really easy to make. Outside of the great quality of fabrics, wouldn't it be easy and much cheaper to make, for instance, rick owens long shirts at home? Would the fabrics be hard to source? I think especially the tank tops I could whip up and get to fit me very well with a home sewing machine and proper fabrics. No?

  2. tween_spirit

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    conceptual forest
    If you can do it, do it.

    Isn't there like some annoying quote about how anyone could have made jackson pollock's paintings, but the difference is that he actually did?
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  3. StanleyVanBuren

    StanleyVanBuren Thumb Raider

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    or for a more modern example, "If you guys were the inventors of Facebook, you'd have invented Facebook."

  4. Teger

    Teger Stylish Dinosaur

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    well, the class is on material culture (history of stuff), so i'm gonna write about the changing silhouettes of levis 501 and how they relate to society.. ie: baggy 90s 501s mean xyz

  5. pickpackpockpuck

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    One of my biggest pet peeves is listening to every other person in a museum saying, "My kid could do that!" I remember hearing that as I stood in front of Picasso's Guernica at the Reina Sofia in Madrid. No, lady, your kid couldn't do that. :fu:

  6. Noctone

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    I've never really looked into it but I always figured the idea of cheaply making your own Rick/Geller/Damir level t-shirts falls apart due to economy of scale.

  7. tween_spirit

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    conceptual forest

    Well he is talking about doing it on his own, so all he has to lose is cost of materials, and his time. Just depends on how you value you that.

  8. Noctone

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    Should've been more specific - I was referring to the cost of materials. If he's just looking to make one or two shirts, I'm not sure that he can get a high-quality fabric at a low enough price point to really save himself much. Especially since there's almost certainly going to be some trial and error.

  9. brad-t

    brad-t Bae Blade

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  10. noob in 89

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    I find ruined (or tinily stained) Loro Piana stuff in thrift stores pretty frequently. Rick Owens cotton ain't gonna top that (and certainly not for $2).

    Don't know how to sew a shirt, though. :facepalm:

    EDIT: For instance, here's a $3,000-ish Agnona coat I found pretty recently; recognized as the best cashmere in the world by those known to recognize such things. Plenty of extra fabric to toy around with as its made for an elephant. Been trying to think of something to make it into.


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  11. bows1

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    How do you get to the most thumbs up list again? I can never remember :embar:

  12. sipang

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  13. GraphicNovelty

    GraphicNovelty Distinguished Member

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    Do any of you guys get stylus? There were a bunch of articles about menswear trends for A/W 12-13. I'll copy the text, but it's sorta meh without pictures.

    Menswear A/W 12-13: Colour
    Stylus highlights the key colour stories coming through from the recent Milan and Paris menswear collections for Autumn/Winter 2012-13. A season of two halves, refined classic neutrals are the basis for Autumn, with plush mid-tonal brights enlivening the season as it progresses into Winter. Classic navy, flannel grey, camel and stone work across all market levels for a return to elegant and masculine dressing.
    • Refined use of pale stone and soft taupe worn as a single hue or in soft tinted layers.
    • Key for refined winter cotton chinos, dimensional cashmere knits and luxe outerwear – an elegant weekend look.

    • True flannel grey is an essential wardrobe staple.
    • Sharp, smart flannels and felted wools mean business for the season ahead.

    • Paler tones of camel look new for the contemporary market and update forward tailored looks.
    • Richer camel continues for classic ‘dressing gown’ coats and statement Crombie coat styles.
    • Key for knitwear styled with grey flannel trousers for timeless style.

    • Continuing the importance of yellow tones from summer into autumn.
    • Ochre yellow tones for a forward, contemporary colour statement – merchandise with dark grape or peacock blue for mid-Autumn separates.

    • Rich bitter chocolate re-colours plush velvets, tweeds, leather and suede.
    • Softer brown tones act as a base for country-inspired checks and tweeds.

    • The essential colour injection for the menswear season.
    • Berry tones range from bright cherry red to deep plum and grape.
    • Key for statement red trousers and plush party season velvets and dandyish damasks.

    • The peacock palette from refined olive shades to bold teal and electric blue is key for the winter season ahead.
    • Key for velvets, cords, knitwear yarns, contemporary tailored pieces and statement satin shirts.

    • Refined classic navy is worn head to toe or spliced with black as the fashion-forward look for the season ahead.

    Key Looks
    Key Looks: Town & Country
    • The return of the classic British gentleman.
    • Mixing Savile Row city tailored style with country pursuit clothing – hunting, shooting and fishing.
    • Tradition reworked.

    Dandy Man
    • Dandy style is reinterpreted.
    • Think Oscar Wilde meets Keith Richards.
    • Power and Vanity – Victorian dress codes.
    • Plush, layered fabric mixing.

    Pyjama Style
    • Elegant dressing gowns and silk pyjamas create a decadent evening look.
    • Will affect shirt collars and soft lux coatings.


    • Immaculate, sharp tailored looks with1960s Carnaby Street styling.
    • Casual parkas are worn over lean suits.
    • Young city style that means business.

    Winter Sailor
    • Nautical style moves from summer into autumn with fisherman-style knits, Breton stripes, waxed cottons and winter chinos.
    • A key casualwear story for the season ahead

    Key Items: Fitted Double-Breasted Overcoat
    • A key new item for the season ahead.
    • Victorian menswear style reinterpreted.

    Military Trench
    • Modish, slick, double-agent style.
    • The leather or technical nylon belted trench is key.
    • Must be in black.

    Fur Outerwear
    • As with womenswear, fur makes a big impact on the menswear market (real and faux).
    • 1970s playboy styling.

    Pea Coats
    • Continuing interest in this classic short style – new reworked in velvet and fur.
    • Winter fisherman styling.

    Reworked Waxed Cotton Jackets
    • The classic ‘Barbour’ jacket is reworked.
    • Cropped and trench styles update the classic shape.

    New puffa
    • The puffa continues as a key item for the season, newest refabricated in woolen tweeds, checks, knits and silks.

    • The classic Varsity blouson continues – refabricated in contrast fur and flannel, country checks and tweeds.

    • A new layering piece for the season.
    • The waistcoat is reworked in lightweight quilted nylon, shearling, suede and tweed.

    DB Blazer
    • The classic masculine double-breasted blazer updates the single-breasted patch pocket style for the season ahead.
    • Emphasis on the shoulder and waist – 1940s glamour.

    Neat-Fit Suits
    • Cropped trousers are a new statement for forward menswear looks.

    Shirt Updates
    • New shirt styles focus on faux-layered looks.
    • Deconstructed back-to-front styles feature cummerbund-effect waistbands to emphasise the waist.
    Velvet Tux
    • A key piece for Christmas/party deliveries, velvet refabricates the classic tux.
    Knitwear: Knit over Tailored
    • Knitwear plays a key role to the layered look of the season.
    • Chunky oversized cardigan knits are worn over tailoring.
    • A new ‘how to wear’ for the season ahead.

    • The zip-front cardigan, the spliced knit and the leather zipper knit are new items for the menswear season.

    • A Stylus favourite, tweed and marl knits are key looks for the season.

    • Pronounced stitch and lofty but light yarns invigorate the classic crew neck.

    • Super-soft mohair for simple knitwear yarns.
    • Key for young/contemporary brands

    Coloured In
    • Marker-pen effects create soft diffused patterns.
    • Dip-dyed stripes and classic yoke patterns are updated with this new technique.

    Details: Layering
    • Outerwear is layered under tailoring – layering two pieces of outerwear together was the key styling statement.

    Pronounced Shoulder
    • Watch out for the return of the pronounced shoulder at the fashion-forward end of the market – it will influence young men’s fashion.

    Hem Detail
    • A key detail for trousers, the button hem tab updates classic tailoring.

    Raw Edge, Deconstructed
    • Raw-edged unfinished woolens and inside-out deconstructed looks are key.

    New Toggle Detail
    • New toggle and military-inspired fastenings update classic duffel styles and pea-style jackets.

    Pattern, Textile, & Details
    Menswear A/W 12-13: Pattern, Textile & Details
    Stylus highlights the essential fabric types and newest pattern and print directives from the recent menswear collections from Milan and Paris for Autumn/Winter 2012-13.
    • Tweed from refined to heavily textured types.
    • Key for neat-fit tailoring and unstructured outerwear.
    • Shades of neutral and smudgy grey tones.

    • As part of the return to smarter country style, corduroy makes a comeback for tailored jackets and flat-front trousers.
    Flannel and Felted Wool
    • Smooth-faced flannel suiting and dense felted army-style woolens for contemporary tailored looks.

    • Highlighting the importance of double-faced fabrics for the season ahead.
    • Key to enlivening classic outerwear looks – classic with modern.
    Textured Wool
    • Textural slubbed, pilled and boucle surfaces for distressed, worn looks.
    • Clothes look worn and washed as a backlash to all things modern and new.

    • A major trend for the party season.
    • Classic silk velvets for dandy-style eveningwear, and softer, washed-cotton velvets for contemporary casualwear.

    • Teddy bear fur and lux shearling for unstructured overcoats, zip-through jackets and gilets.

    • Quilted nylons, silks, denim and thermal-style knits update casualwear staples.
    • Thermal-knit looks for true leisure lounging.

    Leather and PU
    • A strong presence of leather and polyurethane-coated cottons worn head to toe.
    • Key for Matrix-style belted trench coats and workwear trousers.

    New Tech
    • High-shine synthetics, plastic-coated cottons, nylons and recycled ‘bin bag’ textiles reinvigorate the menswear market.

    Print and Pattern: Stripe
    • The dandy returns with blazer stripes reworked in velvet and wool.
    • Lanvin’s boiled wool horizontal stripes were a Stylus favourite.

    Country Colour Wovens
    • True lumberjack checks and brushed plaids for casual shirtings and vintage-inspired outerwear.
    • Key to updating puffa styles.


    • Splicing and colour blocking continue as key ways to update menswear staples.
    • Plain is mixed with colourwoven, matt with shine, and knitted with woven.

    • Quirky spots add a dandy spirit to the season.
    • Key for shirts and ties.
    Dobby Wovens
    • Dobby woven silks are reminiscent of Victorian dressing gowns.
    • Key for single-item jackets, ‘trophy’ trousers and simple rainwear.

    • Beautiful antique damasks inspire exquisite textiles for statement men’s evening jackets.
    • Great worn with battered jeans.
    • Richly embellished tweeds, velvets and knitwear add a baroque touch to the season.
    • Heirlooms of the future.

    • Prints reminiscent of 1970s wallpaper add a quirky edge to an otherwise refined season.

    • Small-scale floral and micro-scale art nouveau patterns for statement tailored looks.
    • Will impact the shirting market.
    • Designers look underwater for pattern inspiration.
    • Expressive waves, intarsia fish and anchor motifs all feature.

    • Engineered collage prints make a modern contemporary statement.
    Off-beat Motif
    • These offbeat motif patterns are a Stylus favourite.
    • A wide range of unpredictable motifs enlivens the key looks – Fantastic
    • Mr. Fox at Burberry and standout ghetto blasters at Jil Sander.

    Best in Show
    Menswear A/W 12-13: Best In Show
    Stylus highlights the most influential shows to influence the menswear Autumn/Winter season ahead.

    • The British label captures the zeitgeist for how men want to dress, mixing casual and formal items together for a look that is neither too formal nor too casual.
    • Burberry called its A/W 12-13 collection ‘The Gentleman’, featuring city-to-country dressing.
    • A polite and charming collection reminiscent of drivers from UK period drama Downton Abbey, with quirky Fantastic Mr. Fox tweeds and velvets.

    Dries Van Noten
    • The Belgian designer presents a wearable take on the dandy mood that is coming through for A/W 12-13.
    • Fabulous outerwear pieces are teamed with ‘bad taste’ 1970s wallpaper prints.
    • A slim romantic silhouette.

    Jil Sander
    • The German label presents a modern ‘double agent’ style with a touch of The Matrix.
    • Head-to-toe black leather and modern synthetic fabrics.
    • The quirky knit intarsias and offbeat placement prints are a Stylus favourite.

    • A stunning collection from the French fashion house mixing formal with casual, military with romantic.
    • Soft-boiled wools are teamed with lux silks and nylons.
    • A modern romantic look, given a contemporary vibe with cool sneakers and caps.
    • Best colour palette of the season.


    • The Italian label was inspired by powerful men and clothing as a tool of power and a way to express male vanity.
    • Key pieces include layered overcoats with a strong navy/black colour palette.

    Accessories and Grooming
    Oversized Bags
    • Statement oversized totes from the luxury brands.
    • Note the subtle use of branding.

    Doctors Bags
    • Dimensional bags based on the classic doctor’s bag.
    • Aged worn leathers for true vintage appeal.
    • Brighter leather tones update the look.

    iPad/Laptop Cases
    • A key category for the men’s accessory market, with statement briefcases, studding and colour-spliced suedes.

    Carpet Bags
    • As part of the dandy feel to the season, richly decorative damasks and woven tapestries feature on totes and weekend bags.

    • Carry it all on your back – a key styling look coming through from the shows. Macs hook onto bags.

    New Lace-Ups
    • Statement menswear lace-ups, decorative, metal and rubber ‘spat’ effects and studded embellishments.

    Dandy Heel
    • Heels for men, 1970s playboy and Victorian dandy style references.
    • A slim silhouette for modish slip-ons and lace-ups.

    Chelsea Boots
    • The classic Chelsea boot style hit the catwalks in a variety of guises – 1960s mod, country gent, 1980s Goth and velvet dandy.

    White Sole
    • The heavy rubber white sole continues for preppy tassel loafers and chunky lace-ups.

    Hybrid Trainers
    • Trainer shoes are a strong catagory for the season ahead – rework in metallic leathers, tweed and sophisticated colour combinations.

    Evening Slippers
    • A key piece for the season ahead, evening slippers were shown in velvet, tapestry and pony skin.

    • Signature belts for the season include asymmetric buckles, slipknot styling and bold lettering.
    • Splicing is the key message for gloves – suede with tweed or knit, fabric with leather and fur trimmed.

    Fur Scarves
    • A lux highlight to menswear – a beautiful fur scarf or stole for dandy chic.
    Knitted Ties
    • Knitted ties (including bow-tie styles) feature from fine to heavy gauge.

    • A plush touch with velvet scarves and ties.
    • As part of the return to dandy styling, the menswear market will see an increased interest in jewellery for men.

    • Geeky style continues – in the 1960s style of British actor Michael Caine.
    • Squared-off frame sunglasses in new tones and materials update aviator shapes.

    Best Hats
    • Relooking at classic caps and baker-boy styles – velvet and tweed are the key fabrics to add the perfect finishing touch.

    Grooming: Dandy Man
    • Romantic, historical Edwardian dandy looks for short and long hair.

    Futuristic Punk
    • Urban, punky and choppy haircuts.

    Retro Waves
    • A 1930s-inspired wave – the side parting is key.

    Super Beardy
    • The beard continues – big statement fishermen’s beards are the newest look.
    Varsity Boy
    • The biggest story for menswear grooming is the traditional ‘barber look’.
    • Military precision partings, neat short back and sides with some length through the top.
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