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Random fashion thoughts

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by thekunk07, Aug 1, 2009.

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  1. wagthesam

    wagthesam Senior member

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  2. chronoaug

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    LOL @ how Apolis has gone from SF darling to shitted-on, rejected brand in less than two seasons.

    A lot of people never cared for the brand much. Also, i believe LA Guy was really big on them (maybe whodini too) which was the main reason for the buzz in addition to it being a new brand that fits in well with many forum members. Doesn't hurt that farinellis i believe stocked it. I don't think it really made much a dent in the users on the forum who don't live and die by each farinellis buy though.







    On the subject of "investment" pieces and buying weird stuff and what not, if you want to taste nice pieces and not be out a ton of money in case you feel like switching stuff up in a year or two, you just need to be smart about your buys. Get good deals on sale or 2nd hand forums/ebay. Unless i know i really want something 100% and am sure of the sizing (or can at least switch sizes with the retailer) then most of the clothes i get that are just for fun at the moment i can sell back for equal price or not lose much money. If i want to completely switch up everything i own and go more americana (albeit slightly more modern) i could sell off most everything i own for about equal money.

    Most of all people shouldn't stress out so much over clothes. They're supposed to be fun.
     
  3. breakz

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    A lot of people never cared for the brand much. Also, i believe LA Guy was really big on them (maybe whodini too) which was the main reason for the buzz in addition to it being a new brand that fits in well with many forum members. Doesn't hurt that farinellis i believe stocked it. I don't think it really made much a dent in the users on the forum who don't live and die by each farinellis buy though.

    Heh...zing?

    To be fair how many mid-tier people make a dent besides APC? Serious question, I can't remember any but there are probably more.
     
  4. impolyt_one

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    Most of the stuff adored on this forum (besides what jet talks about on his own, with himself) is mid-market, or low.

    Julius, although it has now probably ascended to true high fashion status now that they show in Paris, was definitely just a Japanese mid-market brand. Attachment wallowed in the depths of the midmarket for years. NDG was tee shirt streetwear before.
     
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    10k wtf?
    Yeah.... but it's purty
     
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    Not really a zing but a lot of people are loyal to mauro and like to support him. His buys do influence many users quite bit though. I think most people agree on that though.

    Last i checked there were a ton of mid tier brands being bought around here. Most of waywt and buy&sell is mid tier



    edit: impolyt beat me to it. Yea, it's funny how far ndg has come in only like 3 years. A lot of their tshirts are still made in the streetwear style though. On heavy duty fruit of the looms tees (which feel like shit) with a long slimmish body, really high crew neck with noticeable collar ribbing, and baggyish/longer sleeves. The fit pretty much sucks ass but i had to buy that one because i'm in love with mayakovsky and i had never seen a shirt of him before
     
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    Most of the stuff adored on this forum (besides what jet talks about on his own, with himself) is mid-market, or low. Julius, although it has now probably ascended to true high fashion status now that they show in Paris, was definitely just a Japanese mid-market brand. Attachment wallowed in the depths of the midmarket for years. NDG was tee shirt streetwear before.
    Not really a zing but a lot of people are loyal to mauro and like to support him. His buys do influence many users quite bit though. I think most people agree on that though. Last i checked there were a ton of mid tier brands being bought around here. Most of waywt and buy&sell is mid tier
    Cool, then my definition of "mid market" is off. Thanks for clarifying on both things.
     
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    I have always hated apolis, and look how the worm has turned.....
     
  9. impolyt_one

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    yeah, but minus the Jil/Raf, Junya, MMM and Rick that (some) people here like, most of the rest that people get into, talk about, that is all just mid market. I have some different notions about the midmarket than others maybe but there's a whole lot there actually; they're not quite expensive enough to be high fashion but it's not the cheap stuff either. That's a lot of room to play in, and there's a lot you can do in there too.
     
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    yeah, but minus the Jil/Raf, Junya, MMM and Rick that (some) people here like, most of the rest that people get into, talk about, that is all just mid market. I have some different notions about the midmarket than others maybe but there's a whole lot there actually; they're not quite expensive enough to be high fashion but it's not the cheap stuff either. That's a lot of room to play in, and there's a lot you can do in there too.

    Without getting balls-deep into this discussion, I share your view on what "mid-market" is pretty much wholesale.

    I'd like to see more higher end stuff discussed here because that's what I'm interested in, but sadly often times discussions are fueled by widespread availability - people only want to talk about what they plan on buying, which is why the APC thread is fucking huge and the random thread about Junya or MMM only goes for a few pages before it fades off into obscurity.

    Recently I've been liking the cardigan thread, and the black lace-up boots thread. Of course, the TOJ thread is where the steez is at.
     
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    It's nice, fits oversize as with all pe knits so may not appeal to fit nazis on the forum.
    I don't think there really are many "fit nazis," I think it is more that so few people here do relaxed/loose well.
    Really want a ToJ leather but waiting to see color options before I pull the trigger.
    Hahaha, I was reading a book about YSL yesterday that mentioned the crocodile motos in one of his earlier collections. Hopefully Dis can do something like that (or maybe stingray!). The only question is: can these skins hold up to an actual motorcycle accident? I really just want lots of vintage Yves right now, I have been lucky in finding a lot in my size when thrifting.
    This is why I gawk when people ask me why I visit here because I don't dress like the others here.
    It is the ebb and flow of SF, first there is the backlash against posters being different, then there is the backlash against that once everyone becomes (slightly) homogenized. I've also noticed the trend occuring in WAYWT with the idea of context pics. Last year everyone wanted context pics, saying that clothing means nothing without context, then there was the revolt against PG, and so on and so forth.
    Also, this is the most beautiful piece I've seen in a while, womenswear is always more interesting [​IMG]
    You are so predictable, I knew before clicking the link it was going to be either that or the sandal jacket. [​IMG]
    yeah, but minus the Jil/Raf, Junya, MMM and Rick that (some) people here like, most of the rest that people get into, talk about, that is all just mid market. I have some different notions about the midmarket than others maybe but there's a whole lot there actually; they're not quite expensive enough to be high fashion but it's not the cheap stuff either. That's a lot of room to play in, and there's a lot you can do in there too.
    Oh no, not this debate again... Not fashion related, but I got a 79 in a 55 last night. [​IMG]
     
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    Do you really have a motorcycle? This i have to see
     
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    since everyones still talking about apolis,

    [​IMG]

    still can't believe this shirt and how much it embodies what i can't stand about americana (and i wear flannel 7 days a week)

    it's like the entire concept of design and aesthetics have fallen so far to the wayside in the pursuit of ancient americana and workwear references that design has been reduced to a dungeons & dragons random encounter chart where the designers roll 1d20 to determine how many wacky shape pockets you're going to battle

    oh shit, 16! thats two triangles an octagon and a chambray elemental, give up $200 and roll initiative
     
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    Hahaha, I was reading a book about YSL yesterday that mentioned the crocodile motos in one of his earlier collections. Hopefully Dis can do something like that (or maybe stingray!). The only question is: can these skins hold up to an actual motorcycle accident?


    I always see these alligator skins for sale; no, it wouldn't protect in you in a crash but you'd look baller while dying, and the other thing is you'd have to be Barbie doll sized to make a jacket that fits from it, it's for wallets. lol. [​IMG] real croc, don't know, but that'd be pretty out there, but I bet you could actually pull it off man, get some nice big black trousers, a black turtleneck, some sleek black croc shoes.
     
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    Random fashion thought: tried on a few sweaters from various Jpnese brands, N. Hoolywood was disappointing, favorite was a Julius cardi priced at 36,000円, but I don't want yet another mid-grey sweater. I haven't had a chance to check out Stephen Schneider yet... i want to see if the navy cardi with the geometric grey detail fits well or is as good quality as it looks based on the south willard site. MMM is only marginally interesting to me at the moment and none of the FW09 stuff fits me well enough to pay the requisite Â¥, and the YSL I tried on fit well but fabric was meh.

    Men's Non-No isn't giving me any good ideas on a knit for this winter, either. Everything looks too 'on the beaten path' for where I want to be, purchase-wise. It's probably mostly because I wear "work" clothes every day (tie and everything), so I want my non-work clothes to be interesting and satisfy my quality needs.

    drew, I sent dizz a pm in regards to it, but I have an idea for a knit I'd like to see. Not sure if you ever run into nice merinos or cashmeres but I'm serious about this (plain, kind of mmm-raf hybrid aesthetic) design if you found a place to sew out a couple.
     
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    Men's Non-No isn't giving me any good ideas on a knit for this winter, either.
    Nobody did good knits this season.
     
  17. impolyt_one

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    Without getting balls-deep into this discussion, I share your view on what "mid-market" is pretty much wholesale.

    I'd like to see more higher end stuff discussed here because that's what I'm interested in, but sadly often times discussions are fueled by widespread availability - people only want to talk about what they plan on buying, which is why the APC thread is fucking huge and the random thread about Junya or MMM only goes for a few pages before it fades off into obscurity.

    Recently I've been liking the cardigan thread, and the black lace-up boots thread. Of course, the TOJ thread is where the steez is at.


    I realized from Gravitas' comment that we just had this conversation in here not too long ago.


    Aren't you up pretty late brah?
     
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    midmarket is a loaded term and I think the middle of the men's clothing market has changed a good deal in the last decade. Like impolyt says, designers (or whatever you want to call people who design lines not named after tham) can do a lot in there.

    Maybe I'm just reflecting my own experience but in 1999 no one was paying $500 for unlined, casual winter coats at a local men's boutique. Sure there was diffusion stuff but nothing like the wide variety of brands in that niche now. Cue someone saying all the midmarket brands look same.

    Maybe there's an unsustainable number of midmarket lines right now. I know I'm not jealous of store owners who buy stuff they think is great and in line with tastes only to see it sit on the racks.

    EDIT: This is a lot of navel gazing, but even though most high-end stuff is out of my range price-wise, style-wise, and how-hard-am-I-willing-to-work-to-buy-a-piece-wise, I enjoy the discussion and especially when new or tiny lines are posted. SF isn't as good for this as some blogs/mags are these days, but it's a hassle reading 20 blogs.
     
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    Brian, I keep bouncing the idea of a handknit around every day.
     
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    I realized from Gravitas' comment that we just had this conversation in here not too long ago. Aren't you up pretty late brah?
    went drinking for my b-day, alcohol keeps me awake. japanese lesson in about 7 hours. [​IMG] Giving it another shot in a few.
     
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