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Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by thekunk07, Aug 1, 2009.

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  1. hendrix

    hendrix Ill-proportioned

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    That isn't a revelation, but it's a reminder that while SW&D gets criticized for some of its embraced aesthetics, it's still preferable to MC, where the price tag or brand name seems to be the deciding factors in assessing an item's merit.
    Not really. There's all sorts of qualifying factors for an item's merit in MC land. There's the obvious goodyear welting and full canvasing etc to the less obvious gemming vs handwelting techniques etc etc. Plenty of the cheaper brands are praised for their value. PRL in particular does quite well, as well as affiliates like Howard Yount etc. Vass (could be considered "baller" or "plebe") is revered for handstiched insoles whereas John Lobb, Edward Green (about twice as expensive) are sometimes criticized for gemming. We have a "baller sneaker thread" where recognition of good desiign is accompanied by the knowledge that the price of most of them aren't justifiable by quality, but largely by design. Not that that is a bad thing, just making the point that one can be quite objective in determining levels of praise for an item. Which i guess comes back to the point that if you get too fixated on "quality" you forget about aesthetics. E.g. BBBF suits get worn by people actually trying to be "trad", rather than just referencing the style as Thom Browne intended - with pretty fucking obviously different styling and proportions. which i find incredibly annoying. "Guys! Look at me in my sack suit with vintage cufflinks and gunboats and repp tie! I'm permanent style, despite the fact that I am purposely dressing to look like a photograph from 1953!"
     


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    ZhiMingBuFanDe Senior member

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    Too fucking hot in Taipei to wear anything besides t-shirt/shorts/chucks. [​IMG]
     


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    APK Senior member

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    There's an inordinate number of sales and markdowns happening over the last week. Have I just not been paying attention in recent years or doesn't this usually come a bit later in the summer? I'm having to make all sorts of Sophie's Choice-like decisions lately?
     


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    There's an inordinate number of sales and markdowns happening over the last week. Have I just not been paying attention in recent years or doesn't this usually come a bit later in the summer? I'm having to make all sorts of Sophie's Choice-like decisions lately?
    Help a brother out. Who is having the sales?
     


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    Your tastes have changed a lot over the last couple years but you're consistently condescending. What's your deal?

    Not really. There's all sorts of qualifying factors for an item's merit in MC land. There's the obvious goodyear welting and full canvasing etc to the less obvious gemming vs handwelting techniques etc etc. Plenty of the cheaper brands are praised for their value. PRL in particular does quite well, as well as affiliates like Howard Yount etc. Vass (could be considered "baller" or "plebe") is revered for handstiched insoles whereas John Lobb, Edward Green (about twice as expensive) are sometimes criticized for gemming.

    We have a "baller sneaker thread" where recognition of good desiign is accompanied by the knowledge that the price of most of them aren't justifiable by quality, but largely by design. Not that that is a bad thing, just making the point that one can be quite objective in determining levels of praise for an item.

    Which i guess comes back to the point that if you get too fixated on "quality" you forget about aesthetics. E.g. BBBF suits get worn by people actually trying to be "trad", rather than just referencing the style as Thom Browne intended - with pretty fucking obviously different styling and proportions.

    which i find incredibly annoying. "Guys! Look at me in my sack suit with vintage cufflinks and gunboats and repp tie! I'm permanent style, despite the fact that I am purposely dressing to look like a photograph from 1953!"
     


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    APK Senior member

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    Help a brother out. Who is having the sales?

    Check the sales thread. Seems like a lot of good sales lately, not just the standard "hey, we're having an 8-percent-off sale" thing you see a lot of throughout the year. I want to say that at least half of the items that I've really been keeping an eye out on half gotten marked down in the last week.

    Your tastes have changed a lot over the last couple years but you're consistently condescending. What's your deal?

    It's not limited to SW&D, so I think it's just "hendrix being hendrix."
     


  7. pickpackpockpuck

    pickpackpockpuck Senior member

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    Michael Bastian is, in fact, alive and well. And now you might be able to buy some of his cargo shorts for less than $500. Aren't you grateful?
    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/16/fa...ices.html?_r=1

    To chime in on what people were saying a few pages back, Atelier is definitely interesting. Really, really not my thing, but they have their aesthetic down. I expected the salespeople to be obnoxious, but they were actually kinda friendly. Sometimes I like wandering through a place like that just to handle the stuff in person. Definitely starts to make more sense to me than when I look at it in pics, though I don't think I'll be heading down that path anytime soon.
     


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    I saw this and thought "WTF? Michael Bastian is still alive?"

    Can someone explain the logic behind his CFDA win over Patrik Ervell? Isn't he just doing another slimmed-down prep line?

    To chime in on what people were saying a few pages back, Atelier is definitely interesting. Really, really not my thing, but they have their aesthetic down. I expected the salespeople to be obnoxious, but they were actually kinda friendly. Sometimes I like wandering through a place like that just to handle the stuff in person. Definitely starts to make more sense to me than when I look at it in pics, though I don't think I'll be heading down that path anytime soon.

    The Internet is mainly useful for producing porn, pictures of Welsh corgis, and projected snobbery.
     


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    The Internet is mainly useful for producing porn, pictures of Welsh corgis, and projected snobbery.

    OH YEAH!
     


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    Makeshift_Robot Senior member

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    OH YEAH!

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    je l'adore je l'adore je l'adore
     


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    OH YEAH!
    where to kop huskcorgi!! (1) [​IMG] edit; corgi #5
     


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    Makeshift_Robot Senior member

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    'hold on guys wait what happened to the rest of my legs'
     


  13. pickpackpockpuck

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    as well as projectile snobbery
     


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    Hands down best, head looks shopped on.

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    Can someone explain the logic behind his CFDA win over Patrik Ervell? Isn't he just doing another slimmed-down prep line?



    The Internet is mainly useful for producing porn, pictures of Welsh corgis, and projected snobbery.

    cross-post from Sufu

    Personally I felt Simon Spurr should have won but I understand why they gave it to Michael Bastain. Michael is juggling multiple brands including his own house and Gant Rugger. Brought Gant back into the eye of the "fashion public" and rubbed this trad lifestyle dry if not for Simon, for Tommy Hilfiger, bringing some added difference to it all. Lets not forget that even though Bastain won for menswear he also has a loved female line released. Would not doubt that also played a part in it all.

    Phillip Lim had no chance to beat Wang or Geller for Upcoming Menswear simply because he shows his mens in Italy now. Really feel that is what killed him, not his menswear being a shallow (that I like) version of his female line. There are other things but that could have cemeted it all.

    Since I suspect a collab will come out of this I wonder what Bastain and Geller will do. Guessing it would be with Gilt Groupe since they are a big player in this CFDA awards this year.
     


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