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Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by thekunk07, Aug 1, 2009.

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  1. Teger

    Teger Senior member

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    I liked Geller FW08 and 09 best. The fencing shirts were amazing. Honestly if I could get those in every colourway and the old W+H 07 riri flannels in every colourway I would not need any other shirts (outside of work clothes obviously). Teger part of the problem is the palette W+H has moved towards has made them basically into a slightly more interesting Gitman Bros.

    As for the notion that the old world romantic prussian military-influenced stuff was "lifted from Plokhov and Cloak", it was my understanding that Geller was sort of the driver of that stuff when IN Cloak and Plokhov was more about tailoring and geometry (which IMO is reflected in his new stuff). But I cannot speak authoritatively, I just remember that being discussed at some point.


    maybe, but IMO the new geller collections have shown that if did originate with him, he can't really move past it in a meaningful/good way. it's kind of the same beef i have with krane, but much less so because krane isn't really a largescale runway presented line.
     


  2. DeadDJ

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    how else would you judge him other than his aesthetic?
    Yeah in retrospect I'm not sure what I was saying.

    but look at what blackbird has to offer: nothing but sweats and tshirts. or shit like this..

    compare to this: http://www.blackbirdballard.com/Robe...een_16316.html

    i dont like it, but it's interesting. i like the exposed taped seams.

    First off, that's Blackbird's problem. I'm consistently confused by their Geller buy. There was a store in SF that had a pretty amazing buy from last FW that reflected all of the old world charm but came off a little SZ costumey. And seriously? That bomber is fucking horrendous. We're on different wavelengths entirely.

    As for the notion that the old world romantic prussian military-influenced stuff was "lifted from Plokhov and Cloak", it was my understanding that Geller was sort of the driver of that stuff when IN Cloak and Plokhov was more about tailoring and geometry (which IMO is reflected in his new stuff). But I cannot speak authoritatively, I just remember that being discussed at some point.
    QFT, even if you aren't an authority. It's definitely not correct to say Plokhov was the main or only source.

    the whole seconds line/the emphasis on stuff like sweatshirts and hoodies shows the direction the brand is going: he's moving towards stuff that's cheap to make and easy to sell
    Yes and no. Anyway, we can exclude his Seconds line entirely? That shit is bad but I think he took his shitty urges and put them in a separate line for a reason. He does have sweats and such on his runways but so does everyone else, and with his runway they're few and far between.

    ...away from more artisanal/directional pieces. what made his line interesting was the old world direction ... but he's not progressing away from it in a meaningful fashion.
    IMO the new geller collections have shown that if did originate with him, he can't really move past it in a meaningful/good way. it's kind of the same beef i have with krane, but much less so because krane isn't really a largescale runway presented line.
    It seems hyperbolic to assume the simplification of his look is just so it's "cheap and easy to sell." His aesthetic has cleaned and simplified significantly and it's definitely more mainstream. But I could have looked at the collection without being told who it was and know it was Geller without any crazy pieces. His identity remains and it's still not like it's the most common looking shit around. And as much as I liked his old world touches, they were usually unwearable. Even his fencing jackets that he did really well stuff were pretty tough to pull off and could result in "random strings" on jackets.

    But we disagree on his future and that's fine. I don't even know why I'm talking so much. I didn't even like FW that much. I'm all over SS for some reason.
     


  3. notwithit

    notwithit Pullup laureate

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    I usually just answer with "[My name] speaking."
    Even that's a major improvement. Just saying "hello?" makes it sound like you're answering a house phone. I was calling a colleague (at the same company I work for), and I had to identify the name of my company and who I was calling for in addition to my name. If she'd said her name, I only would've had to identify myself. I like the new W+H sneakers, but I feel like the white toe caps are a tiny bit Chuck-ish. Not that the caps look exactly like the caps on Chucks, but I think a less stark contrast - maybe tan with the brown shoes and grey with the black shoes - would look better. I'm pretty sure they're rubber, too, and I'd rather see and all-leather upper. I also think they could've found some better zippers than the paper clip-ish Ideal zips they throw on everything, which don't even glide that smoothly. edit: Was W+H ever trying to be anything other than bland? (re: Lane's comment below)
     


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    If geller was truly moreso responsible for the "romantic prussian military influenced" style cloak had going on for it than I'm quite disgusted as well, by these recent collections. They are so unimaginative and awful.

    Also, yah at face value W+H is the blandest stuff I've ever seen in my life.
     


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    I was under the belief that everyone hated the S/S 11 Dries Van Noten collection but with one pants purchase the hype has spread. Thought I was the only person that liked it. Well, except for those god awful shoes this season.

    edit: for my main reason for posting. I would wear Y-3 to church and everywhere else.
     


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    Y3

    RFT: Just checked out Olive Green Rafstros on Yoox. Holy shit do those things look cool.


    Any place online to buy/source it? Newport in Fashion Island has a store, but it's 2-3 hour drive for me. Also, was thinking about more bright/vibrant colors and the last i remember seeing is y-3 being pretty minimalistic/black.
     


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    I was under the belief that everyone hated the S/S 11 Dries Van Noten collection but with one pants purchase the hype has spread. Thought I was the only person that liked it. Well, except for those god awful shoes this season.

    edit: for my main reason for posting. I would wear Y-3 to church and everywhere else.

    Really? I got the feeling, at least critically, it was well-received. Haven't look to how the 'net is dealing with it. Most of my SS will be based around this year's SS Geller and Dries.

    Y-3 is awful.
     


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    if not Y-3 then i'm just go nike, maybe with the alt. line NSW but i have only seen some decent outerwear from them. I remember another line from nike/addidas that had shorts with bright techno lime green/yellow colors etc. that was dedicated toward running -- anymore info on that?
     


  10. indesertum

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    anybody from chicago? any stores worth visiting?
    sup chicago? blake, haberdash, and penelope's are the three i was thinking of checking out. any where else? any affiliates im forgetting?
     


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    Really? I got the feeling, at least critically, it was well-received. Haven't look to how the 'net is dealing with it. Most of my SS will be based around this year's SS Geller and Dries. Y-3 is awful.
    boo! Super Assassin Poetic Fresh. Would prefer if the price of entry was a bit lower though, $400+ chukka's "no thanks". My S/S revolves around jil colorblocking and the first look of Loden Dager Spring 2011 runway. While using Robert Geller pieces lol.
    Adidas SLVR or maybe the nike collab with Jun Takashi? dunno haven't been following it.
     


  12. GraphicNovelty

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    we're talking about this in RHET, what is swag'ed gymwear?

    (inb4 "cotton tees 4 lyfe i only go to the gym to sweat brah")
     


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    I'm bored by most of what I'm seeing for S/S
     


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    nike "gyakusou" x undercover? that' what i want to get on for summer
     


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