Random fashion thoughts - Part II (A New Hope)

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by LA Guy, May 15, 2015.

  1. Cotton Dockers

    Cotton Dockers Senior member

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    Chief Petty Officer.
     


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    Huh, I did not know that. You learn something everyday.
     


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    I like the idea of a rip-offs thread although I think we'd be safer calling it something along the lines of 'Highly coincidental similarities in design...' or words to that effect.
     


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    Synthese Darth Millennial Dubiously Honored

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  5. Find Finn

    Find Finn Senior member

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    I also know the meaning of the word, which isn't the same and what I assume is what you meant to ask.

    Do you know "the law of jante"?
     


  6. venividivicibj

    venividivicibj Senior member

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    I'm not sure what the point is of some of these anecdotal arguments (Ex -uber guy gets rich 'proves' mobility, A.P. Møller and Mærsk 'proves' big house theory, etc).... using singular examples does not prove that a theory is invalid or incorrect.
     


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    Now we have our own:
    Highly coincidental similarities in design: rip-offs, precedents and heavy-handed inspiration
     


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    the shah Persian Bro #2 and enabler-in-chief

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  9. Find Finn

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    You are missing the point, they are examples as direct answers to comments or questions, not arguments. You can find multiple examples of both.

    I don't think it would be more interesting if there was 50-100 examples, as no one would read them, but point taken next time I will post 50 examples and expect you to read them. ;)
     


  10. venividivicibj

    venividivicibj Senior member

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    True, if there are multiple examples it would be different.
     


  11. Find Finn

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    I chose to use examples in companies / people most people know, using Joe Millionaire no one knows, would defeat the purpose, as it could be made up. Most really frugal millionaires are unknown, so you could be living next to one and not know it.
     
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  12. LA Guy

    LA Guy Opposite Santa Staff Member Admin Moderator

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    I think that it would be stupid to not think that a fair number of people "Make it big" from little capital. However, even if you had 10K examples, it still represents an exceedingly small fraction of the population, even if you only count people in Europe and North America. Statistically, your assertions about social mobility are simply not borne out, at least not in the USA.

    This from Pew research. It's fairly robust: http://www.pewtrusts.org/en/researc...015/07/economic-mobility-in-the-united-states

    While some people will definitely beat the odds, I don't think that the exhortations to "work harder, poors" is necessarily good public policy.
     


  13. Superb0bo

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    edit: didnt see LA Guy´s post..

    giving examples that social mobility is possible does not in anyway address if it has increased/decreased, which was the original point. The mere possibility is hardly surprising, but if it its one in a million or ten million salient example of someone "making it" does not disprove to the overall point that social mobility is rare and restricted (if it is). Hence, actual data is needed to make these points.
     
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    1% is 1% for a reason, it takes an insane amount of work to get there, no matter where you start out, which only very few are willing to. Some rate getting of work at 2pm and spending the entire evening with the children higher and live within the means of that premise. Northern Europe has highest social equality of anywhere, so the gap between poor and rich isn't as big as it is in f.ex the US.

    So the question is probably more do people have a lesser desire to "make it" now than 30 years ago, as lower middle class is not an undesirable place to be, compared to 30 years ago, at least here in Scandinavia.

    I still haven't found any proof to support the professors statement from the program, more the contrary.
     


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    ^^ and that contradictory proof would be the type of examples you have mentioned? I dont know if mobility in Denmark has increased or decreased but I know that your own limited sampling and gut feeling cant answer if that is the case. Statistics are need.
     


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