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As it turns out, this:

Pyer Moss make Lambo, Mclaren, Aston money or does the designer work somewhere else alongside? Never really seen the brand out in the wild at all.

was an insanely prescient question.
 
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I loved the Articles of Interest series on Ivy. Listened to it with my wife on a long car ride and even she, a person who does not care for clothes, was super into it. I do think the podcast often confused Ivy and prep--something Trufelman, the podcaster, admitted--and spent a few episodes rehashing Ametora, but overall it was really interesting.

Incidentally, I'm wearing a shaggy dog shetland today, and had no idea the founder of J.Press was Jewish until listening to the pod.
 

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I started listening to Articles of Interest at the same time I started reading Ametora, so I took a break from the podcast. I'm glad to hear the podcast moves on from the book eventually.
 

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As it turns out, this:



was an insanely prescient question.
A lot of designers are awful at the business of fashion. It's an entirely different set of skills, most of which have very little to do with fashion, but the best have a lot of ability to tap into the zeitgeist.
 

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@LA Guy I don't know what's going on, but ever since the site refresh there's a gigantic image of some dude on almost every page I visit.
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A lot of designers are awful at the business of fashion. It's an entirely different set of skills, most of which have very little to do with fashion, but the best have a lot of ability to tap into the zeitgeist.

I've been fortunate to become friends with several boutique owners and small founders in NYC over the pandemic and the amount of work one has to put in to have sustained success on the business and sartorial sides simultaneously is really formidable. Even as a small brand I think you'd need to be insane or brilliant to attempt to take on both sides by yourself. So, so much can go wrong it seems like and that's even if you are disciplined.

He was probably setting Kering's money on fire as soon as he got it.
 

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I've been fortunate to become friends with several boutique owners and small founders in NYC over the pandemic and the amount of work one has to put in to have sustained success on the business and sartorial sides simultaneously is really formidable. Even as a small brand I think you'd need to be insane or brilliant to attempt to take on both sides by yourself. So, so much can go wrong it seems like and that's even if you are disciplined.

He was probably setting Kering's money on fire as soon as he got it.
A lot of the best partnerships have a primarily creative person and a primarily business-oriented person - Ralph and Jerry Lauren, Patrizio Bertelli and Miuccia Prada, Pierre Bergé and Yves Saint Laurent, etc... people with differing, complementary personalities but a lot of mutual trust and often intimate relationships.
 

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