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Random Fashion Thoughts (Part 3: Style farmer strikes back) - our general discussion thread

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by LA Guy, Jan 3, 2018.

  1. erictheobscure

    erictheobscure Distinguished Member

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    Margiela shirt obviously a visual meditation on the unstable typological relationship between blood/ink (between the letter of the law that insists on the corporeal vs. the spirit of the law that appeals to a truer meaning) as imagined by The Merchant of Venice.

    Portia, to Shylock:
    This bond doth give thee here no jot of blood;
    The words expressly are 'a pound of flesh:'
    Take then thy bond, take thou thy pound of flesh;
    But, in the cutting it, if thou dost shed
    One drop of Christian blood, thy lands and goods
    Are, by the laws of Venice, confiscate
    Unto the state of Venice.

    Spelled as 'one iote' in the Geneva Bible and as 'iot' in Shakespeare's Folio, both Portian and Jesus refer to the Greek iota modeled on the Hebrew yodh, its simple stroke constituting the most minimal letter in both alphabets . . . Portia's reference to the 'jot of blood' serves both to align Shylock's bond with the bloody letter of the law and to associate her own legalism not with Shylock's Judaism but with the internalizing 'fulfillment' of the law brought about in Christ's post-Sinai Sermon on the Mount. . . . Portia's maneuver functions dialectically, as the negation of a negation, a sublation that locates the two characters on either side of a historical divide.
    - Julia Reinhard Lupton, Citizen-Saints (Chicago, 2005)

    Too large to be a jot, neither ink nor blood, worn on the body (over the body) but resisting any signification, the Margiela shirt tries to clog the wheels of dialectical machinery.
     

  2. ChetB

    ChetB Distinguished Member

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    How do you say “Margiela”?

    I’ve always said it mar-gel-uh ... like gel as in hair gel.

    But then I heard Noah Johnson saying “mar-jay-luh” on the Corporate Lunch podcast and now I’m wondering if I need to go hurl myself from a cliff in shame.
     

  3. mmmargeologist

    mmmargeologist Senior Member

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  4. Purplelabel

    Purplelabel Distinguished Member

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    I say Mar-jay-uh

    Probably wrong.
     

  5. FrankCowperwood

    FrankCowperwood Distinguished Member

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    I looked up an ad on YouTube to hear the pronunciation but I forget what it was.
     

  6. OccultaVexillum

    OccultaVexillum Distinguished Member

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  7. dieworkwear

    dieworkwear Mahatma Jawndi Dubiously Honored

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    some other important ones.

    dont get these wrong you numbnuts.







     

  8. RegisDB9

    RegisDB9 Rico Suave

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    I’ve adopted my girls “Marty Marjelly” namesake cause she makes it sound very cute. I’ve never met or seen any Margiela here in the wilds of Palm Beach so never had to pronounce it correctly to anyone

    Well I guess there was that time a couple years back when some kid told me “what are those” and I replied Maison Martin Margiela Replica 50’s Cuban sidezips in chocolate. Left him questioning his existence by the look he gave me
     

  9. mmmargeologist

    mmmargeologist Senior Member

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    jet Persian Bro

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    hopefully you're kidding

    Never liked these sorts of infused whimsy that margiela did but I have a jil sander shirt with a giant fucking rose on the chest. I also have a mmm pulled neck sweater and my buddy had an intentionally pilled black crew neck sweater, almost like a casentino sweater. I didn't really care for his line 14 stuff which was like boring business casual shit. There was a lot to sift through but there were some hits every season.
     

  11. mmmargeologist

    mmmargeologist Senior Member

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    I’ll ask Alexa
     

  12. FlyingMonkey

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    I think you were missing the point that I am arguing in favour of the 'fake' and against 'authenticity'. I love Kapital's artistry and have plenty of their stuff as well as other Japanese brands that trade on the 'fake' boro look (Koromo / KRM, Blue Blue Japan etc.) and plenty of 'fake' workwear that has never seen manual labour and never will. We agree.
     

  13. MGoCrimson

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    Kanye taught me how to pronounce Margiela
     

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  15. LA Guy

    LA Guy Opposite Santa Staff Member Admin Moderator

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    Holes in jeans just triggers my OCD extra crazy. Not on others, but on myself.
     

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