I still have a small amount of slippage on my left shoe on the Ranger Mocs. Maybe it is because I got them on Vibram Cristy Wedge. I initially tried on an 8 in the Ranger Mocs with the moc sole and they felt really tight, so I went with 8e, and they are a tiny bit loose. The 8e on the beefroll loafers felt perfect. Weird. I dont think it would bother me so much, except for the fact that I felt like I did everything right in terms of picking out my proper size. If it had been a different brand that wasnt MTO, I really dont think I'd care. I think if I got another pair, I'd probably go with an 8, or maybe just get them made on the loafer last - and that might solve the problem. I mean I can lace them up super tight (and that solves the issue), but then my toes hurt, so that is a bad option. I know some of you have said that with time, the slippage with dissapate, so I'll for that. I think I can also easily just ignore the tiny bit of slippage, because I love how the shoes feel other than that, and especially love the look of them. What do you guys think?