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RANCOURT & Co. Shoes - Made in Maine

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by whatever123, Sep 2, 2010.

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  1. Kashiwa

    Kashiwa Senior member

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    ^^ Bakes, I struggled to picture that shoe. But I just woke up! Sounds like a camp moc, no?

    It's funny. I've also had boat shoes on my mind. Guess I'm already hoping for summer's return.
     
  2. Bakes11771

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    If i'm not mistaken, the camp moc laces go around the foot opening of the shoe. It would be like a brown CXL venetian with white stitching and white boat sole, if you can picture that. Then just add a rawhide lace bow where a tassel would go. The bow would not be functional, as it would not tighten the shoe. No eyelets anywhere.

    Also, camp moc has camp moc sole.


    So this with white sole and white stitching, plus rawhide bow.
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    Or this without the eyelets and the piece of leather they are connected too. Also, without the lace that goes around the shoe. Just rawhide bow where a tassel would be.
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    not too far off from this actually, just white sole and non-functional laces. Also no eyelets.
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    Picture rawhide bow instead of tassels. See what I mean by "non-fuctional like a tassel"? Does not tighten shoe.
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    On a separate thought, ^ This with camp moc sole and non-functional laces/bow made of suede in leu of tassels would make a cool driving shoe.
     
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  3. jns425

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    I'm not gonna lie - those royal blue boat shoes keep calling my name. I was thinking with an RLH sole and grey laces. Also loving those Color 8 boat shoes...

    Anyone have a pair of their boat shoes?
     
  4. chuckb

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    I'd like to give my sizing experience with Rancourt as well.
    I think of myself as being a 9.5e TTS, and sized on a Brannock I'm between a 9 and 9.5, and between D and E. 9.5e in AE 7 and 9 lasts fit quite well. I measured myself (or more specifically, by GF measured me) using the Rancourt sizing guide, and it came out basically the same as the brannock. So I ordered the pinch pennies in 9.5e, and they're just about right - one foot is a little loose, but that foot was closer to a 9 when I measured.
    I also wanted to thank people in this thread for all the info and pictures etc - I definitely wouldn't have bought these shoes (which have become my favorites) without the advice here.
     
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    Dark olive CXL with black lactea hevea soles. They look dark brown in everything but direct sunlight where they are noticeably olive.

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    I really like the soles. They're very comfortable and have good traction.
     
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    Awesome. Strong work. I'm going to consider that combo for myself in a loafer. If you have more pics, please post. detail of sole and CXL color would be nice to see.

    On a related note, I definitely think the Rancourt site is picture deficient.


     
  7. FrankCowperwood

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    ^+1 This is a great color combination. I really like the dark soles with the dark green CXL. Those will be extremely wearable.
     
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    Those are great! Its hard to picture the leather without seeing it on a shoe first, but now I think I might have to consider the olive on my next shoe.
     
  9. FrankCowperwood

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    Fiddling with my camera's processing options and took a photo my Rancourt chukka mocs, exactly as shown on the Website:

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  10. FrankCowperwood

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    Also, thought it would be interesting to collect some information on Rancourt's lasts.

    This is from the Rancourt site FAQ:

    "We use three different lasts. Our handsewn lasts are the 114 for loafers and other slip-on shoes and the 800 for tie shoes and boots, these lasts come in widths B, D, E, EE. Our Blake stitch last is called the John last and comes in D width only.

    There also seems to be a 555 loafer last, with is described as a bit shorter and narrower than the 800. Not sure how the 555 relates to the 114 they mention on the site. This is where it would be nice for some input from someone knowledgeable at Rancourt.

    :)
     
  11. Bakes11771

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    Found a better pic of that Olive color on their Facebook page. These boots look sweet, Can't wait for mine to get here.
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    Could be another pair in #8 Shell in my future as well.
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    So the "Color 8" is kind of a burgundy-ish color?

    Sorry if this is a stupid question, but why do they call it "color 8"?

    I love how those boots look!
     
  13. FrankCowperwood

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    Not sure who originally coined the name "Color #8" to refer to what is, as you say, a burgundyish color. Could have been Horween, I'd think. But it is what many would call the classic cordovan color. It can show differently from different shoe makers, since they often finish a leather differently as part of their production process. For example, I think Rancourt's #8 shell is definitely a different look and feel from Alden's.

    I wonder if it wasn't an internal designation (there's a relatively seldom seen Horween color #4, as well, for example) that's been carried over to the retail level. Most colors of shell end up having some more poetic name applied to them, such as Espresso and Caramel (Rancourt), Whiskey, Ravello, and Cigar (Alden), or Cognac and Saddle (Carmina). I'd imagine that naming is all up to the company making the shoe and likely trademarked, in the case of Alden, since you don't see anyone using the same terms. All may be slight variations on the basic colorways, again because of the factory finishing.

    I'm sure there's a much more complete answer out there somewhere. Maybe on Horween's website or blog.
     
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    That makes sense. I think the Color 8 could look fantastic on a Rancourt Camp-Moc.
     
  15. FrankCowperwood

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    Yes, absolutely.

    And a nice thing about color #8 shell, if that's what you are considering (Rancourt offers it in CXL as well), is the way that it ages. Wear and exposure to light create variations so that the burgundy color shades to red and deep brown. It ends up looking really great, IMO. I'll go take a new photo of my color #8 Beefrolls to post here. I think they show it.
     
  16. jns425

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    Would love to see a pic!
     
  17. FrankCowperwood

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    Here you go. Hopefully this captures the color. Probably going to put them away for the winter because of the leather soles.

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  18. knucks

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    My #8 are definitely more dark burgundy/dark brown than those.
     
  19. jns425

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    Are yours chromexcel?
     
  20. knucks

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    yes - are Frank's cordovan?
     

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