RANCOURT & Co. Shoes - Made in Maine

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by whatever123, Sep 2, 2010.

  1. irbe

    irbe Senior member

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    Nice pick up tv2177. My beefroll I got from SA have been great so far. Didn't think I enjoy wearing a penny loafer. Only fear is putting in a shoe tree and having them stretch out as I have a little heel slip still when sockless - but no big deal.
     


  2. ElDave

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    These are great. Were they MTO? I like the contrasting blue inside and at the back.

    Do the black dots stick out far like on a driving moccasin? If so, I think it'd be a no go for me since i do a substantial amount of walknig.
     


  3. FrankCowperwood

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    I believe I have this same sole on a pair of AE loafers and they do not stick out. They are very practical: walkable with good traction. And they look good.
     


  4. Kashiwa

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    ^^ Frank, you beat me to it. They are indeed recessed. No personal experience with them. Very glad to hear they work well as I'm considering them for my next MTO.

    tv2177, Great looking loafer. Enjoy! Wait til you get some scuffing on those soles and I'm sure they'll be a lot more grippy (although still less perhaps than the Tempest).
     


  5. Kashiwa

    Kashiwa Senior member

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    As far as I know, OSB doesn't offer MTO. That's what makes Rancourt unique.

    If you do go MTO with Rancourt, they are not going to make you a new pair if sizing is off. See their return policy.

    http://www.rancourtandcompany.com/terms-conditions

    I don't know about stretching, and I haven't seen it discussed on this thread as of yet. Better to try and nail the sizing, or perhaps buy first from a brick and mortar or online retailer that allows returns.
     


  6. Winston S.

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    Their terms and conditions state that it is up to their discretion whether a new pair is made or if the shoe will be stretched. I'm not sure if there are tell-tale signs if a shoe has been stretched.

    AFAIK, if you are buying directly from Rancourt all shoes are made to order, therefore every order would be custom.
     
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  7. Kashiwa

    Kashiwa Senior member

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    ^^ My apologies! I didn't even read the page I linked to. In my hopeful defense though, I think that page may have been changed recently? Or have I just been ignorant of this policy all along?

    "Given that our shoes are made to order, returns will not be accepted for any reason other than manufacturing defects. Before placing your order, please be absolutely certain of your size because shoes cannot be returned for improper fit. When you receive your shoes, please try them on indoors on a carpeted surface to check if the fit is correct. If the shoes do not fit we will allow an exchange for the same exact style and color in half a size up or down from the original order, or one width in either direction. In cases of the shoes being too tight, we may be able to re-last or stretch the shoes to the proper size and it will be determined by Rancourt & Co. whether we will stretch the shoes or craft a new pair."

    Can't answer your questions about stretching. And I'm baffled by how they would decide whether to re-last, stretch or craft a new pair. Regardless this is a really generous policy for MTOs.
     


  8. tv2177

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    this is correct. they do not stick out


    these are MTO.
     


  9. Kashiwa

    Kashiwa Senior member

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    Value is in the eye's of the beholder. Very difficult to measure objectively. Some people might (an do!) believe that the ability to MTO is well worth the cost, especially if you know your size. Not to mention shoes direct from Rancourt are less money than buying from their retailers (unless you can find something on sale), and also less than competitors (e.g. OSB). Perhaps you should consider non-custom shoes via these alternative routes, since stretching is, indeed, far from ideal and you seem very skeptical about getting the sizing right.
     
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    It sounds like it could be that a Rancourt MTO is not for you.
     


  11. ElDave

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    It sounds like you're new to handmade shoes and you're coming off like a jackass. This isn't exact science in a state-of-the-art factory. It's a dude up in Maine with some leather, sewing shit together that someone will wear on their feet eventually. If you want a guaranteed 100% spot on fit, go buy a pair of Nikes or get a bespoke shoe done and have fun paying the corresponding price for it. Until then, try to be realistic about what you're asking and what is possible given you're ordering a handmade good over the internet.

    He's making something by hand from the skin of a dead fucking cow and you're bitching that he's not providing insurance. Get over yourself.
     


  12. Kashiwa

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    To be honest, I can't exactly wrap my head around this. Why not just exchange for 11D? What is the difference between "exchange" and "re-make", and why is the second better?

    And, why not just call the "one of the Maine-based manufacturers" you purchased the shoes from? Best to discuss this with them.
     
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  13. ElDave

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    Have you actually contacted the manufacturer? If so, which manufacturer? Kyle from Rancourt responded to my emails very quickly.

    Additionally, if you aren't comfortable with their terms, why did you order from them? There's a number of vendors, some of which are very popular on this board, who I won't purchase from because I'm uncomfortable with their terms, exchange policy, etc. You agreed to their terms when you purchased their product. Don't be mad bc you don't like a contract in retrospect.

    Additionally, there is NOTHING wrong with stretching chromexcel. If you don't know this, I question if you've ever owned something made from chromexcel.

    Again, making goods from hand is not an exact science. If you are not comfortable with this fact and the manufacturer's terms, purchase your shoes elsewhere. It's that simple.
     


  14. JosephD

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    Hello everyone. I plan on buying a pair of camp mocs. I wear an 11 in sperry a/o's and I got a pair of the Rancourt suede chukka boots that brooks brothers was selling in a 10.5D and they fit me pretty well. Should I get the camp mocs in a 10.5D?
     


  15. Kashiwa

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    1) Ask them to call you before they do anything and inform you of their plan for the shoes

    or

    2) Ask them what they did to your shoes after the fact.
     


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