RANCOURT & Co. Shoes - Made in Maine

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  1. Bakes11771

    Bakes11771 Senior member

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    Kashiwa - I'm not sure what you are describing. If the vamp does not extend all the way to the toe, is it an open-toe shoe? Can u elaborate?

    Robsay24 - The sole is replacable but pretty sure you won't be able to find the same exact sole to replace it with. You could do leather or thin rubber. I asked Nick V. this question before I bought them.
     


  2. mrpo0nani

    mrpo0nani Senior member

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    Back again for sizing advice. General population of owners says TTS would be best but I'm seeing others say sizing down is "OK." I am a 7.5D on the Barrie and 8E on the Van last fits me but it's a little snug at the vamp. Would an 8 be better for me than a 7.5? Looking to pull the trigger on these beefrolls but there's only 8.5 and 7.5
     


  3. tv2177

    tv2177 Senior member

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    wow I really like those stitch around strap on that Carmina Hawthorne Mocs from Epaulet. It gives a nice clean look compare to the pinch penny or other machine-stitched half-strap loafers that I have seen.
     
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  4. Kashiwa

    Kashiwa Senior member

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    I think the advice to size down a half size should at least be followed by the caveat: if you plan to predominantly go sockless. And this advice should perhaps also be limited to the more stretch prone materials (e.g. CXL, suede). Not sure if sizing down a half size is good advice or not, but those two caveats would make it somewhat more reasonable, IMO.

    By the way, I don't think Taylor Stitch is actually stocking Rancourt, unfortunately. Looks like you still have to wait 4-6 weeks for your order. Might as well go MTO through Rancourt........

    And, you're right, tv2177, sure would like some more detailed last info!
     


  5. P Hudson

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    I recently received a pair of Rancourt camp mocs, after a bit of input from Kyle Rancourt on size (via email). I usually wear a 9, and I ordered a 9. They are snug. If I had gone with 8.5 I wouldn't be able to wear them. If you're thinking about Rancourt, an email to them with some data about your current shoes might be useful.
     


  6. kmdsimpson

    kmdsimpson Senior member

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    This is great information, along with PhiPhi's unfortunate experience. Sizing is why I've been reluctant to order, and I haven't found anywhere near me that has them in stock to try on. It sounds like unless you really know what you're doing, better off going true to size.
     


  7. Kashiwa

    Kashiwa Senior member

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    ^^Snug with and without socks? I went TTS and my loafers are very snug with even thin socks. Sockless though and they are just a bit loose (not sure if it is enough to warrant sizing down though).
     


  8. P Hudson

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    I think that is addressed to me, so I'll respond by saying that they are snug even without socks. The first day I went for a 15 minute walk, sockless. The initial reaction is that they fit like a slipper--soft leather, perfectly placed, etc. After 10 minutes the top of my foot was in real pain. The last 5 minutes were mainly on grass so hurt a bit less. The next day the pain was severe (but without blisters) so I put on a pair of thin socks. That helped a bit. Today, I put on a pair of thicker socks and forced my feet in. The pain is diminished, and hopefully they'll stretch just the right amount. Note that I am not talking about the length or width, which I find to be just about perfect (but again, if I had downsized, it would have been a disaster length-wise). I am talking about the area just higher up than the four eyelets that run across the top of the shoe. I even undid the laces to see if that would make it better, but of course they are largely non-functional, the actual fit there being determined by the size and shape of the leather.

    Hope that helps. Different people will have different experience. This was mine. My next pair of Rancourts will probably be Ranger Mocs, which, because it has a lacing system, will eliminate this issue.
     
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  9. Kashiwa

    Kashiwa Senior member

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    ^^ Sounds like you've got the right size. Excellent. If they're CXL, they'll certainly stretch out a bit.

    Out of curiosity, are handsewns popular in Australia? The only reason I ask is that I just read this article about handsewns in Asia (interview with Kyle and Quoddy), and it stoked my curiosity about the popularity of Maine handsewns round the world.

    Market for Maine heritage-brand shoes growing in Asia

    http://www.sunjournal.com/news/busi...ine-heritage-brand-shoes-growing-asia/1179012
     
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  10. P Hudson

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    I'm afraid I couldn't address the popularity of handsewns here. At present, I've noticed, boat shoes are popular. Beyond that, I couldn't say. I make a point of wearing traditional American items, and claim no understanding of Australian "fashion".
     


  11. Kashiwa

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    ^^ In retrospect, that was a tough question. I'm in Japan, and I don't think I could assess the popularity of handsewns here either. Penny loafers are ubiquitous, and are the foundation of children's school uniforms. But they are machine made, undoubtedly in China. I know that American-made handsewns are well respected by folks interested in heritage-clothing, and they are commonly available in high end shops, but this is only a minuscule fraction of all the loafer and moccasin style shoes being worn in Japan. While loafers seem to be pretty fashionable here at the moment, I think this trend is absent any recognition of the history-geography of handsewn production and any concern over how shoes are being made.

    Sorry for the tough question, just find myself, for some reason, curious about the international interest in handsewns.
     
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  12. Kashiwa

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    Plain toe chukkas are apparently now available for MTO (according to a recent comment by Kyle on FB).

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  13. Louis XIV

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    Not too much into the shape of the toebox, but I am sure there will be others who will rock them.
     


  14. tv2177

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    I read that article when it first came out and that wasn't too surprise to me because HK and JP is more established than China and Taiwan in the sense of fashion. Korea I do not know so I will not comment on something that I don't know. Moreover, HK was ruled by GB for 99 years so the influence of Western style is definitely there. Japan I believe is one of the biggest Asian country that love and endorse all high-end US made or Europe made fashion designer brand. Only using the word "fashion" to carry out what I am trying to say but the Rancourt's shoes are just classics that will never go out of style.

    Interesting I thought that Plain-toe chukka was available for a while? is it a new style?
     


  15. FrankCowperwood

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    Congratulations on your new Rancourts. Post some photos.

    Are these camp mocs CXL? If so, they should have a nice amount of give in them. I'd image the other calf/cow leathers Rancourt uses do too. I just don't have experience with them. I hope they mold to fit promptly.
     


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