I've got the Tod's loafers with the full rubber sole (not just the independent nubs) and highly recommend it. More quality than I expected from the pics on their website, and frankly I feel that Italian shoes are generally of inferior quality. (not poor quality, but just not among the best) I'm also very into this venetian loafer / camp moc hybrid talk that is going on. I had been torn between both designs. The eyelets was exactly what I didn't like about the camp moc, and I like the thin rubber sole thats in the Rancourt x Taylor Stitch make up above. Something like that in various colors of suede (or leather) and matching laces might be an unavoidable purchase.