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RANCOURT & Co. Shoes - Made in Maine

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by whatever123, Sep 2, 2010.

  1. wdahab

    wdahab Senior member

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    Horween blog on shell #8 fades from a few years back.

    That's the kind of fading I meant. The dye itself breaks down tremendously with exposure to the sun, faster than the leather darkens with exposure to sun. I certainly didn't expect the #8 CXL to act like shell at the creases, or have the same look as it pushes the dye/oils away from those creases. But I did expect #8 CXL to fade with exposure to sunlight, especially since as a summer shoe it would be exposed to a lot of sunlight. Instead, it's just a burgundy color that stays more or less a burgundy color.

    Of course, now I have natural shell loafers, and #8 shell rangers, so I'll get that sun exposure this coming summer!
     


  2. MoneyWellSpent

    MoneyWellSpent Senior member

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    It looks like Highland Shoe Co. only does handsewns, so I assume that Oakstreet's Goodyear-welted offerings (Trench Boots) are probably made at the factory where Justin makes their boots?
     
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    MoneyWellSpent Senior member

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    I understand, I wasn't saying that anyone was expecting creases, etc., to behave the same way.

    My misunderstanding was limited to behavior of the color fading, and the expectations related to that. Just as I wouldn't expect a piece of wood or cloth that has been saturated with Color 8 dye to "look" the same as a pair of shell shoes when left out in the sun, I also wouldn't expect different leathers to behave the same way, regardless of their dye color. I've seen that blog post from Horween, but it doesn't necessarily imply that the color changes are strictly due to the dye itself. Rather, it is just about how leather changes over time and Color 8 shell is used as the example for the blog post. I may be misinterpreting the results that were being sought though.

    Anyway, hope you enjoy them regardless of their fading characteristics!
     


  4. totalair1

    totalair1 Senior member

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    Great info! I love my shell Rancourts, great shoes.. You mention a sweetheart deal on AE shells. Is this something you can PM me?

    Thanks!

    Steve
     


  5. wdahab

    wdahab Senior member

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    It's no secret, doesn't need to be PM'd. The CEO of Allen Edmonds made an offer over on the AE thread here on SF, earlier this year, that custom order fees would be waived on any Style Forum member's custom order. It works out to any upgrade, configuration, lining, and customized feature that they are able to do (things like leaving of medallions, adding exposed eyelets and speed hooks, etc) would be free and not subject to the usual $150+ custom charge. On top of this, when they have an AE wide sale (like the 15% off RDA sale) it stacks. So custom shell AE anything they make, with your choice of lining, soles, edging, etc. for about $500 (+ tax depending on where you live). Only shell colors are brown, #8, and black. I have a pair of unlined brown shell shortwings and unlined #8 shell long wings, all double JR soled, antique edged, in production as we speak.
     


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    Thanks for the info!

    See Ya,
    Steve
     


  7. johnH123

    johnH123 Senior member

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    Just got a pair of ranger mocs in from the Club Monaco sale. I followed the sizing advice I found here (the suggestion was to take the same size as one takes in the Alden Barrie last), but they seem pretty tight. I got a pair of penny loafers last year in my 'normal size' (10.5D) and they were huge, so big that I had to sell them. I figured then that sizing down to 10D would work.

    How much can I expect the chromexel to stretch on the ranger mocs? I have some boots in the same leather but they didn't stretch too much as they weren't tight to begin with.
     
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    Unlined CXL stretches *a lot* at least in hand stitched shoes. The difference between these and most other shoes is that other shoes have a piece of celastic (plastic basically) that holds the toe form. Celastic doesn't stretch with your foot. Handsewn shoes use that stitching to hold the toe shape, so there's nothing but the CXL, and yeah, it will stretch, at least if you're a fan of these kinds of shoes when they exactly fit your foot like a glove. They aren't supposed to fit like boots, you don't need to have an inch in front of your toes.
     


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    My cxl penny loafers were fairly tight (so much so that I was worried they weren't going to work) and they stretched enough that I can wear some decently thick socks with them comfortably.
     


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    Same experience here. Mine have stretched considerably.
     


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    Same here.
     


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    Thanks for the responses gents, I've been wearing them around my home to break them in (it's slush city where I live for the next 4 months) so they should be good by spring.
     


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    John, you will be good to go within a month.

    Although, I've really put a beating on my beefrolls since September. I just installed some taps because I'm blowing the heels out at a really high rate.
     


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    Penny Loafers ( at least the beefrolls) 800 Last

    Ranger Mocs 114 Last

    If i'm not mistaken.
     


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    Does anyone have "in the wild" pics wearing the suede Chukkas that Rancourt makes for Club Monaco? I think it's the Fuller chukka but I am not sure. The last looks very bulky and wide but it is hard to tell without seeing of pic on feet.
     


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