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RANCOURT & Co. Shoes - Made in Maine

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by whatever123, Sep 2, 2010.

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  1. rydenfan

    rydenfan Senior member

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    Suhweeeet
     
  2. FrankCowperwood

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    Looking good.


    These should be outstanding. Very interested to see how the Blake wingtip makes up in shell.
     
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    So is anybody going to order the wingtip in Navy/Natural Shell?
    I've been playing around with it on the site and I think it would look awesome... I am tempted...
    of course I am also tempted by the blake boot, the blake captoe boot, the ranger moc etc. to many choices and what an opportunity to score some nice shoes/boots at a 20% discount. Decisions, Decisions....

    Has anyone seen a wingtip in person? What is is like?

    Of course I ask that after I already ordered a pair.
     
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    I saw Steven Alan's Rancourt wingtip in person, they didn't have any in my size to try on. It was nice, but I wasn't a fan of the calfskin leather on it. Though, IMHO, calfskin isn't a strength of Rancourt's, really. Getting a too-spec MTO version in 3 weeks with shell and CXL though? That'd make it pretty awesome. That said, I'd go with filling out your collection (though, honestly, do you even have any gaps at this point?) Go with shell rangers, I say!

    Still no word on shipment of my natty shell beefrolls that were supposed to ship last week. Hoping they'll just show up one of these days without a tracking number/shipping notification. I know that when shipped they'll get here the next day, so hopefully they get into FedEx's hands by Thursday. Want to get at least a couple weekends use out of them this summer!

    As an aside, a brief update on one of my pairs, my #8 CXL boat shoes. I must say that these are by far my most disappointing shoe. They've been to the beach, been in the office, gotten soaked tons of time, and exposed to tons of sunlight. And yet no patina. The goddamn things look brand new still. Moulded to my foot of course, and with some light creasing, but still a deep brown color. Yeah, tongue in cheek, but actually I really was hoping to get some patination out of them. I like a boat shoe that looks beaten to shit, and this looks way too nice. If I got it over again, I'd get it in natural CXL for sure.
     
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    Photo of my brand new Natty CXl beefrolls. They were a bit snug when I first put them on, but they are breaking in nicely. Barrie size is definitely the perfect fit.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Those look beautiful! I agree on the Barrie sizing.
     
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    Did you specially request the box stitch on the saddle? Or did they do it without asking you? It's not on their online pictures, but this is the second picture I've seen of beefrolls with this box (they had a brown pair showing it off on instagram. I really, really don't want one and I'm going to be unhappy if my natty shell beefrolls show up with it (like, send it right back to them unhappy).

    Mind you, they don't look bad. And your loafers look great. But they are definitely not my taste, and I'd be unhappy if they changed a major aesthetic on an expensive pair of shoes without telling me. Especially when (outside of the current sale) they are being sticklers for "any deviations from what's on the website pushes you up to the custom pricing."
     
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    I'm still on the edge. Especially with the Trickers MTO option. I have until the 6th I guess.
     
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    I just noticed that as well. I thought something looked different. My beefrolls do not have that box stitch, either.
     
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    I did not ask for the box stitch and didn't pay any extra for it. Actually, I didn't even notice until you guys caught it.

    I personally don't care. The shoes look great, and feel better with every wear.

    Now I guess I have something custom that sets my shoes apart from everyone else's.

    Here's hoping it was a one time "mess up" and no one else can ever get my 'rare - box stitched' shoes.

    :)
     
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    Yeah. I mean, they don't look bad, and that natty CXL is a beauty. I just don't want it for myself. I hope that makes sense.

    As soon as I saw this photo I was worried that I may get a surprise. Fortunately there are also these beauties in shell that give me hope.
     
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    Looking good. Snug is definitely where you want to start with CXL. Those are going to just look better and better as you wear them. Enjoy.
     
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    Just got an email from Katie, my beefrolls were damaged and had to be remade. Should be shipping tomorrow. So that answers that, not a problem, will still ship on time. I also shot her an email double checking that they didn't put a box stitch on them.
     
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    I just heard back from Katie, she says that this is now standard procedure. I don't really get how they can just make an unannounced change like that, especially on Made to Order and custom shoes. She asked how I would like to proceed, so I asked if I could see a picture of how the stitch was done. Basically, if it's right next to the slot then I really, really don't want them. It breaks up the long geometry of the saddle, and just doesn't look good. If it's done the way that OSB does theirs, though (where the stitch is wayyyy off to the side, basically framing the entire saddle, rather than just framing the slot, then I'd be fine with it and not make them make another pair of shoes.

    If it's done the way the pictures look, though, where it's right next to the slot, I'm going to insist that I get a pair the way I ordered. I think they are going to get a *lot* of complaints over the next few weeks as people who custom ordered their beefrolls get surprised that they don't get what they ordered.
     
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    Wow. Very interesting. I am not a fan of that box stitching. That is a pretty major change from the example shoes they show on their site. If that is 'the way it is' from now on they should update their pictures.
     
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    Scrolled thru my texts and came up with this pic. A buddy of mine ordered some ready made Beefrolls from Rancourt a couple weeks ago. Boxstitch present...
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    [​IMG]

    This is how OSB does theirs. You can see that it differs from Rancourt's, in that the stitch is closer to the beefroll, farther from the slots. In your friends, you can see it's almost right next to the slot, far away from the beefroll. With my order being an extra-wide, the gap could be even bigger. If it's like OSBs, I could overlook it, it's subtle and matches the aesthetic of the beefroll. If it's like these pictures, though, it's like the box is the most important part of the shoe, a big square in the middle of the saddle. I just don't get it.
     
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    Yep. I was just comparing to OSB. Their way is the lesser of two evils, but my R&Co. beefrolls without the stitching at all is the preferred way for me. I wonder what would prompt them to change that? On mine, they are stitched all the way across the saddle, through the roll.
    [​IMG]
     
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    Katie sent me a picture nice and promptly! Here they are and boy, am I glad I caught this in time. That is just... I don't know what they're thinking. She said it's no problem, they'll redo the saddle if that's what I want, which is what I definitely want. Looks like I caught it before they put on the sole, thank goodness. I mean, look how it angles away from the beefroll, and isn't quite symmetric. Other than that, they're quite pretty, and can't wait to get them.
     
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    I agree that I prefer the saddle without a box stitch. And I also agree that it is hard to understand what the purpose of this new design element is. Particularly if OSB already does it. Rancourt should do something different. It hardly seems as if a box stitch is a distinguishing mark of skill, particularly when it looks a little wonky like this one.

    Glad you'll get your $600 loafers the way you want them. :)
     

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