• Hi, I am the owner and main administrator of Styleforum. If you find the forum useful and fun, please help support it by buying through the posted links on the forum. Our main, very popular sales thread, where the latest and best sales are listed, are posted HERE

    Purchases made through some of our links earns a commission for the forum and allows us to do the work of maintaining and improving it. Finally, thanks for being a part of this community. We realize that there are many choices today on the internet, and we have all of you to thank for making Styleforum the foremost destination for discussions of menswear.
  • This site contains affiliate links for which Styleforum may be compensated.
  • STYLE. COMMUNITY. GREAT CLOTHING.

    Bored of counting likes on social networks? At Styleforum, you’ll find rousing discussions that go beyond strings of emojis.

    Click Here to join Styleforum's thousands of style enthusiasts today!

    Styleforum is supported in part by commission earning affiliate links sitewide. Please support us by using them. You may learn more here.

** Quintessential Crockett & Jones Thread ** (reviews, quality, etc...)

Gustaf

Senior Member
Joined
Nov 17, 2020
Messages
626
Reaction score
1,282
Hi all,
A newby here, and trying to get my head around C&J Coniston's from here in Aus.
A have the usual RM's and a few pairs of Cheaney shoes and Oak Street Trench boots with leather soles. But I do wear my shoes hard & given its coming into winter here Danite looks the go.
I can get a pair of Conistons here in my size (UK8) if the 325 last is similar to the Cheaney 125 last, but saw a great comparison picture with the Carmina Oscar & now am undecided!
The Oscar can be had in Cordovan hatch grain (Burgundy shell hatch grain, is it really that red as the picture on the Carmina site is unclear?) for not that much more than the Coniston in tan scotch country grain, or the Oscar in Tan Karagrain which looks similar to the Coniston tan for less $.
I usually go with brown boots and thought the Coniston in tan may be a nice change (and I can get it here), and will likely stand up to abuse a bit better.
It just so happens I may be able to get my hands on a pair of the Galway II in Cordovan, but with the leather sole....
Help!
Thanks..

Hi and welcome. I can only vouch for the Coniston; it's a rugged boot that only looks better with use. I have no experience of the other models you mention. The Galway II is discontinued so might be a good idea to pick it up now. You may want to pose this question in the Boots thread also:

 

Coolhand0302

Senior Member
Joined
Mar 21, 2020
Messages
441
Reaction score
2,697
Hi all,
A newby here, and trying to get my head around C&J Coniston's from here in Aus.
A have the usual RM's and a few pairs of Cheaney shoes and Oak Street Trench boots with leather soles. But I do wear my shoes hard & given its coming into winter here Danite looks the go.
I can get a pair of Conistons here in my size (UK8) if the 325 last is similar to the Cheaney 125 last, but saw a great comparison picture with the Carmina Oscar & now am undecided!
The Oscar can be had in Cordovan hatch grain (Burgundy shell hatch grain, is it really that red as the picture on the Carmina site is unclear?) for not that much more than the Coniston in tan scotch country grain, or the Oscar in Tan Karagrain which looks similar to the Coniston tan for less $.
I usually go with brown boots and thought the Coniston in tan may be a nice change (and I can get it here), and will likely stand up to abuse a bit better.
It just so happens I may be able to get my hands on a pair of the Galway II in Cordovan, but with the leather sole....
Help!
Thanks..
One thing that might help you decide is how you are likely to wear the boots the most, i.e., in the office exclusively, office and job site, mostly casual use, etc… If you’re mostly in suits, the Carmina last will look more elegant than the Coniston on 325 (although you can get a fantastic shine on Cordovan leather, if needed).

However, for your hard-wearing purposes, nothing will beat the shell Cordovan leather. Despite its premium price point and how easily it shines up, it is the original durable work boot leather, and is unparalleled in ease of care for simple scuffs and scrapes (water is another matter, but also not a huge deal). And if the price for a shell Coniston or Galway II isn’t that much more than the grain leather where you are, it’s an easy choice for me to go with the Cordovan option (I have both, and the difference between the Coniston and Galway is pure aesthetic preference IMO - I find I wear the shell Galway with suits more than my grain Conistons, and wear both equally with sports jackets). I also wouldn’t worry too much about the sole - you should be able to find a cobbler able to add a topy to a leather sole for a nominal cost, or resole to your choice of sole entirely once you’ve worn through the leather…

Another thing to consider is color. I wouldn’t worry about the burgundy being “too” red (although I don’t own this leather from Carmina), as most leathers in that range are still considered “brown.” If you have a lot of (or only) brown boots, you may want to try a different color leather to give you more options. However, I have found the lighter leathers to be harder to pair with most outfits than the darker leathers, and that I consequently wear them less often...

But this is mostly personal preference and options - if you don’t have many boots and think you’ll wear these often with a wide range of clothing, I’d probably opt for the Coniston or Galway in dark brown shell Cordovan (C&J also does this shade better than others IMO); but if you have a few dark brown boots and want some different color options, and especially if you want a more elegant looking shape, the Carmina in burgundy hatchgrain might be an option, too…
 

Crafty Cumbrian

Master Builder
Joined
Nov 7, 2017
Messages
6,139
Reaction score
27,752
Made for Murricans….😂😂
42B0A412-A03B-44DB-A895-B81268B7DF30.jpeg
 

Gustaf

Senior Member
Joined
Nov 17, 2020
Messages
626
Reaction score
1,282
He said it’s a Harlech. It’s burgundy cordovan.

Who did and when? The model wasn't mentioned in Crafty's post, hence my question. Apologies if I missed something.

Hi mate it’s a Harlech but made on the 240 last for Peal and Co in America (Murricans!). It’s colour 8 Horween shell.

It's a Harlech, nothing but a Harlech... Thanks, the last/angle threw me off. Looks good!
 

zippyh

Stylish Dinosaur
Spamminator Moderator
Moderator
Joined
Sep 16, 2007
Messages
11,211
Reaction score
23,078
Who did and when? The model wasn't mentioned in Crafty's post, hence my question. Apologies if I missed something.



It's a Harlech, nothing but a Harlech... Thanks, the last/angle threw me off. Looks good!
Sorry, he mentioned it being a Harlech on instagram.
 

Featured Sponsor

How important is full vs half canvas to you for heavier sport jackets?

  • Definitely full canvas only

    Votes: 91 37.9%
  • Half canvas is fine

    Votes: 89 37.1%
  • Really don't care

    Votes: 25 10.4%
  • Depends on fabric

    Votes: 39 16.3%
  • Depends on price

    Votes: 37 15.4%

Forum statistics

Threads
506,795
Messages
10,591,863
Members
224,312
Latest member
WealthBrainCode1
Top