** Quintessential Crockett & Jones Thread ** (reviews, quality, etc...)

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by david3558, Feb 24, 2011.

  1. Win545

    Win545 Senior member

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    Im an 8D in Alden aberdeen last and 7.5D on Barrie and wear 7E on 341,348. Go for 7E.
     


  2. Zapasman

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    Great love to C&J HG shoes. On par to EG & JL IMO.

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  3. Satmoche

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    I have been looking at their Bradford derby in dark brown, calf. But Carmina offers a sensibly similar shoe. Now, I am aware that those are different brands, and owning both and only in suede, it is a bit hard to decide.
    Carmina is about £100 cheaper when you add the shoe trees. So in your own experience with calf leather, is CJ -not handgrade, quite superior to Carmina and thus worth the additional £100?
     


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    IMG_6662.JPG Crosspost. Brown Marlow wing tips today.
     


  5. Wakefields

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    What model is this? they look great
     


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  8. chrfi

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    Well, I have cordovan Bradfords and Carmina calf derby's (Detroit PTB). I think they are comparable in quality of clicking and stiching, there is no noticeable difference. Because the shoes are of different types of leather I can't really comment on that.

    I'd say there is actually quite a big difference in the lasts, Carmina derby's are quite "shapely" and the C&J Bradfords more round and classic UK-style. If you are comparing the C&J's to the Carmina Rain-lasted derby's then I'd say they are completely different in how the last is shaped.
     


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    I am wondering if anyone here can advise on the fit of different C&J shoes?
    I have a pair of Lowndes double monks and I am a size UK8.5E, I am interested in buying a pair of C&J Cavendish tassel loafers and as I have not bought C&J loafers before I am not sure if I should buy in the same size as my double monks or size up to say a UK9E.
    Hopefully someone amongst you knowledgeable folk will be able to help me with C&J fit and sizing.
     


  10. Satmoche

    Satmoche Senior member

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    Thank you for your answer.
    The Carmina Rain derby is the one I looked at indeed. I thought that they looked similar as I did not see many derby shoes with a chiselled toe.
    Carmina not having any presence is not ideal, as CJ will sort anything out in case there is an issue.
    I was just intrigued by Carmina's calf shoes, as I have had bad experience with other brands in the past.
     


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    Zapasman Senior member

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    The leather is not a problem; both have the same quality calf leather. However a Rain last for a derby is not suitable (even if the fit is great). Bradford is a perfect derby. However 100 $ makes a big difference for the same quality shoe. Either Pembrole or Bradford are the way to go IMO.
     


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    Old C&J loafers. 35+ years old. Uppers are spotless albeit creased
     
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    I can share my experience, but given we all have different shaped feet, I’m sure somebody will have had the opposite experience to me.

    I wear UK 8 on a number of different C&J lasts (including the Lowndes), was planning to get the Cavendish but UK8 was too big (felt closer to an 8.5) whereas the 7.5 was too small and tight so sadly I had to pass.

    Would strongly recommend trying the Cavendish on in store if you can (I think a loafer can be the most challenging to find a good fit) but if you are planning on purchasing online I wouldn’t personally recommend sizing up on the Cavendish as the 325 is quite a roomy last - in my opinion of course
     


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