Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by david3558, Feb 24, 2011.
Very nice. Is that Renovateur?
No it is the Creme 1925. Shea butter based. My cobblerrecommends me not to use Reno since the mink fat can make the shoes slightly greasy and mate. I use the clear cream and C&J polish on the toe caps.
Lots of praise of the Reno here. I will give it a try so that I can base my statements on first hand experience...
Yes Renovateur is greasy , should be used in small doses, I much prefer the Medaille D'or Lotion
Gents, can anyone tell me what's the difference between the Chestnut Antique Calf and the Chestnut Burnished Calf?
The antique calf is used for the hand grade range, the burnished calf for the main collection. Though I am not able to explain the technicalities of selection and treatment of the hides, the antique leathers have shignificantly more depth of colour and character than their equivalents in my experience.
heres a xpost picture from the sock it your way post. my first pair of C+J's after a few months worth of use.
Dandie, thanks for your reply
The reason for my question is that I am now internet-shopping for a new pair of C&Js and wanted to buy Malton which are in Chestnut Antique Calf http://www.crockettandjones.com/Product/Malton-Chestnut - from main collection. I already have a pair of Westbourne http://www.crockettandjones.com/Product/Westbourne-Chestnut which are in Chestnut Burnished Calf, also main collection though, and was wondering if the color will be the same, which I don't want.
I'm thinking of pulling the trigger on a pair of Tetbury Boots. I wear a 7.5 in the 337 last. Should I stay with the same size on the 348 last? I would prefer to get it right on the first try to avoid the heavy shipping fee for a return. Thanks, all!
I would be interested in hearing others' experiences. I wear a UK6 in the 348, obviously benchgrades, but when I tried a pair of UK6 337 handgrades (Weymouth), they were overall just a little 'loose' to me. They had a 337 in a UK5.5 (Clifford I think) which I then tried and it fit me quite well. Sadly there were no other styles which I could have tried on UK5.5 because I was not sure if it was the Weymouth's wholecut style which made it fit differently. I do wear a UK6 on a 363 (handgrade).
Sorry for the tangent. I think most guys can get away with the 337 = 348. The 348 is definitely longer and a tad narrower I think; however, since the Tetbury is a boot, maybe you have more room for error?
alright, my last and tree maker doesn't.
hmmm, interested to understand that, given that a bespoke last is modelled on your foot rather than some one elses
which part do you not understand? btw, i cannot follow your theory...
I got me jar of Reno yesterday. After using it on my old New&Lingwood calf pennies and a pair of well worn Alden shells I won´t describe it as "greasy". The cream has a lighter feel and is gives more shine. The reno feels like it gets deeper into the shoe.
I won´t hesitate using the reno on my dress shoes.
my theory, which is mine and belongs to me, is as follows:
"the best shoe tree is the one that is closest to the shape of your foot, not the last of the shoe"
to expound (excluding bespoke shoes for the moment)
your shoe will not be a perfect fit when you buy it (for example it may be too narrow across the mid foot)
your shoe will mold to the shape of your foot with wear (for example it will stretch across the mid foot)
the more you wear it, the faster this molding will occur
if you use a shoe tree that mimics the shape of your foot, the molding process will be faster (for example the broader shoe tree will continue to stretch the mid foot area while you sleep and wear your other shoes)
if you use a shoe tree that is narrower across the mid foot than your foot, the molding process will take longer
errr, that's it
in practical terms, what it means is that the obsessing over lasted shoe trees is a red herring, in my opinion
of course, if you have a bespoke shoe, the last is based on the shape of your foot, and the shoe made to fit.
I recently decided to buy myself a pair of shoes that weren't disposable and made quite a jump, if I may say so myself. After aproximately seven years of wearing a pair of black Ecco bluchers non-stop with perhaps 20-30 days a year wearing other cheap shoes (aside from the gym, that is) I did my research and went ahead and got myself a pair of Cliffords in 10.5UK in regular width.
I'm finding the quality outstanding and lovely but I can't say I'm blown away by the sole: it seems to have a propensity to attract sharp pebbles when I walk over my driveway and they often lodge in the leather, then squeaking over pavement stones. I do like taking care of them, however, and I've used C&J cream twice so far. The first time immediately after I bought them I slapped it on liberally, left it a day and wiped them down thoroughly. The second time ten days later I just dabbed a bit on and cleared next day, as before.
I'm constantly impressed at how deep the colour is and how well they're holding up despite being worn about once every 2.5 days. If only I had a matching tan leather belt (two ordered but stuck in transit).
Anyhow, I'm looking to mildly expand my shoe collection. In the past I only had black shoes because I figured they work with everything but as I've matured I've decided that brown, tan and burgundy are much more exciting and definitely more cultured. What I'd like to know, and the reason I'm posting in this thread, is how to translate my foot-size to the AE equivalent. I certainly enjoy my C&Js, but I absolutely can't afford another £420 pair, and I want a couple of options to wear everyday, without constantly feeling self-conscious and worrying if a pavement will prove too damaging for my shoes.
The 337 Cliffords I have are snug all-round, no lateral or transverse motion. I feel like if they were tighter in any orientation they'd be too tight to wear. They've definitely got more comfortable with wear, but perhaps they're still a hair too tight around the ball of the foot, if I wear them for 7~ hours I feel them a little irritating there. I've used the AE printout to map my feet and I came in at exactly a 11.5D US size, which theoretically is exactly what a UK 10.5-regular is (and 45-reg EU too, which my other shoes are). Am I safe assuming a pair of AE Strands in 10.5D US would fit me well?
And because it's a crime to first-post without a eye-candy, here's the picture of my Cliffords as soon as I got home from buying them in Birmingham. Please excuse the sartorial faux-pas with the too-long jeans, I bought them at the same time intending to shorten them. Tried shoes and jeans on, took pics, and forever branded myself a fashion criminal.
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