** Quintessential Crockett & Jones Thread ** (reviews, quality, etc...)

[Leonardo Da Vinci]



Could I ask how the Pembroke compares on the different lasts please?

It depends a bit on your foot, but generally speaking forget to wear the same size for the pembroke in 325 last and the pembroke in 317

the 325 is E fitting, while the 317 is G fitting.
In my case I had to size up 1 full size from the 317 G.

The 325 E is very tight, at least for me, and being a brogued model does not help to feel them comfier with the time passing; so my advice is, if you feel this model tight since the beginning, just leave it and go for a bigger size: half size or 1 size up as happened to me.

 

[Leonardo Da Vinci]



Could I ask how the Pembroke compares on the different lasts please?

,,,,,,,,,,,,,And same thing for the Grasmere with the difference they're not brogued, so they loose a bit easier

 

[chipshot]



It depends a bit on your foot, but generally speaking forget to wear the same size for the pembroke in 325 last and the pembroke in 317

the 325 is E fitting, while the 317 is G fitting.
In my case I had to size up 1 full size from the 317 G.

The 325 E is very tight, at least for me, and being a brogued model does not help to feel them comfier with the time passing; so my advice is, if you feel this model tight since the beginning, just leave it and go for a bigger size: half size or 1 size up as happened to me.

^ +1000

 

[Webbo]



It depends a bit on your foot, but generally speaking forget to wear the same size for the pembroke in 325 last and the pembroke in 317

the 325 is E fitting, while the 317 is G fitting.
In my case I had to size up 1 full size from the 317 G.

The 325 E is very tight, at least for me, and being a brogued model does not help to feel them comfier with the time passing; so my advice is, if you feel this model tight since the beginning, just leave it and go for a bigger size: half size or 1 size up as happened to me.

Just got the Pembroke on the G, 317 last. Great fit but a heavy shoe. Does anyone have any thoughts on how long a C&J brogue like the Pembroke will take to break in?

 

[peppercorn78]



Just got the Pembroke on the G, 317 last. Great fit but a heavy shoe. Does anyone have any thoughts on how long a C&J brogue like the Pembroke will take to break in?

Fantastic! I wonder if I could fit that model. If I wear Vass 44 H (P2), Alden 10.5 3E (Barrie), AE 10.5 3E (65), Bonafe 10 H (946), would I take size 10 G on this last?

 

[Webbo]

I take a 44 P2 Vass (regular fitting) and a 10 E Barrie and these Pembroke's are spot on for length against these two but definitely wider and more overall volume.

 

[rc121]

For those of you who have 317 in G fitting, what sizes/widths do you wear in other lasts and other makers? Trying to determine whether the G width would be a US E or EE.

 

[Webbo]

For those of you who have 317 in G fitting, what sizes/widths do you wear in other lasts and other makers? Trying to determine whether the G width would be a US E or EE.

Having bought both recently I feel that the G on 317 C&J Pembroke is a touch wider than the Alden E fitting PTB on the Barrie last.

 

[peppercorn78]



Having bought both recently I feel that the G on 317 C&J Pembroke is a touch wider than the Alden E fitting PTB on the Barrie last.

What lengths do you compare?

I'm definitely a 3E in Barrie last, E width is too tight.

 

[Webbo]

Both with size 10. The C&j seems just a touch longer than the Barrie.

 

[peppercorn78]



Both with size 10. The C&j seems just a touch longer than the Barrie.

Thanks. Ok, it sounds like there's a chance these will be too narrow, even in G.

 

[NewStart]

Hi gents, cross post from the RL thread, need a bit of advise on these bad boys - got them off Yoox at amzing price and love them at first sight

They fit really nice when i tried them on, but there is a bit of heel slipage & a bit roomy at the toe box when walking - will these go away when i fully break in (these have double leather) - this hypothesis work really well with all my other shoes/boots - just not sure with loafer

Thanks for the help

 

[S K M]

Lindrick GMTO: Only one slot left!​

Gentlemen,

As of now we only have one slot left on the Lindrick GMTO. The details are:

• Style: Lindrick
• Last: 325
• Width: E
• Colour: dark brown shell cordovan
• Sole: Double leather
• Welt: Storm
• Eyelets: Metal + speedhooks
• Price: 583.33 pounds excl. VAT, or 700 incl. VAT
  
  Shoe trees will be an extra 50/60 pounds (excl./incl. VAT), and shipping will be 10 pounds for the UK and 30 pounds for EU and the states – the rest of the world I believe will be around 50 pounds.
  
  
  
  
  
  Some more very appetizing photos can be seen here.
  
  This is the very last chance to join a GMTO of this boot no longer in production and even for the old price (before C&J's current price increase). If interested in the last slot kindly send me a PM asap, and the order will be placed next week - and you will have the bots in about 12 weeks time – just in time for autumn
  
  Cheers,
  SKM

 

[NAMOR]

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[Zapasman]

While you're right that it is a pattern imprinted over older calfskin, that process does make it a harder wearing shoe and more weather resistant. There's a reason it is a common material on casual English shoes. If you call C&J for example and tell them you want a shoe with good water resistance this is what they are going to recommend to you...

Any calf that is imprinted, rolled or pressed....makes its pores more oclussive. I think that is the reason for its water resistance (and the use of waxes of course)