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** Quintessential Crockett & Jones Thread ** (reviews, quality, etc...)

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by david3558, Feb 24, 2011.

  1. mxgreen

    mxgreen Senior member

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    Wrong!!!!

    In an e-mail to me C&J stated very clearly that a UK11.5E is a US12D. And, in fact, I wear a US12D or a UK11.5E in each of the following shoes - C&J for Barneys Connaught (236 last) marked US12D, C&J for RL Darlton shell wingtip (325 last) marked US12D, C&J for Foster & Son Ascot captoe (324 last) marked UK11.5E, and C&J for RL Benton (337 last) purchased from UK seller and marked UK11.5E.

    Look everyone is different; some go down 1/2 size, some a full size. You have to try the shoes on to see what is your correct size. It can get very expensive - it did for me - because there are not many US sellers of C&J shoes. But, you may be able to try on a variety of C&J made shoes at a local Brooks Brothers or Ralph Lauren to get a feel for your correct size.
     
  2. claes500

    claes500 Senior member

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    Does anyone know if the 337 lasted shoetrees are still available? I bought hinged ones last year but now I can't seem to find them?
     
  3. meister

    meister Senior member

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    I have a pair of C&J Handgrade dub monks that were made for RLPL some time ago. They seem to have 338 on the inside shoe wall. Is there formerly a 338 last?
     
  4. Frank the sheep

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    When i bought my Somervilles from Burlington Arcade a month ago i got a pair of the lasted trees, 85 punds.

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  5. SuitedDx

    SuitedDx Senior member

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    Just receives my Somervilles (first pair of handgrades) and I am extremely pleased. Regret not getting the lasted shoe trees but I can get those next time. Really happy with my pair: all dark brown calf (even the shaft), all eyelets (not speed hooks), and the fit was spot on (1 full size down for me has been consistent).

    Funny I bought a pair of AE Fifth Streets recently and they are vey similar in color. I think my AEs will provide a nice dyeing experiment!
     
  6. dandie

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    new cliffords for me - have been yearning for these even though I'm not convinced they are suitable for midweek use with a suit. If not, then there are plenty of weekends


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  7. dandie

    dandie Senior member

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    Much as I love my Somervilles (chestnut leather/snuff suede) I think the dark brown may have been a more practical choice - I could see them getting a lot more wear.
     
  8. Northampton Novice

    Northampton Novice Senior member

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    ^ Surely you are not short of practical choices given your excellent C&J collection Dandie :D
     
  9. SuitedDx

    SuitedDx Senior member

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    I do like contrasting shafts; however, I'm not a big fan of suede. I'm thinking of using natural cream on the shaft and cream with dark brown dye on the uppers when I condition them. I think after a few years it should develop into a nice subtle contrast.

    I was extremely happy when I received them that they had all eyelets since the all dark brown calf model I saw had speed hooks.
     
  10. Gdot

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    Lovely,

    Move to the US. You can wear those shoes any day of the week here! (Unless you work in a VERY conservative environment.)

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  11. dandie

    dandie Senior member

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    I lived in NYC for a few years - before I knew what good shoes were though.

    Go Giants!
     
  12. chogall

    chogall Senior member

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    C&J @ Royal Arcade also told me that I am in UK 9.5E (I am 10D US), but in reality I am UK 9E. Same thing w/ G&G guys, Tony sized me a 9.5G when in reality 9.5F fits great if not a bit loose.

    It's simple; better for them to size you (online lol) a bit bigger to minimize the number of returns and complaints. As long as you can wear them, you won't complain!

    Barney's mark C&J 1 size up AFAIK.

    Again, C&J and JL = full size down, EG and G&G = half size down. And for disclosure, I've worn 358/337 and tried 348/341.
     
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  13. Gdot

    Gdot Senior member

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    I have to agree - size down a full size from US to C&J's UK sizes. Unless you run on the wider side, in which case you might get away with only a 1/2 size down.

    I was sized in the Royal Arcade store as well - I ended up 1.5 sizes down from my US size. I'm so happy with the fit that I ordered 4 more pairs on the same last after returning to the US. No regrets at all here, for my foot the sizing is spot on.
     
  14. uniesse

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    How did your toes cope?
     
  15. Gdot

    Gdot Senior member

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    toes = no problem for me.

    The C&J 348 in 6.5 are just as wide as G&G in a 7 as far as I can tell. Certainly no shortage of length either.
     
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  17. mxgreen

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    I'm not trying to beat a dead horse but that is not true of the two pairs of C&J for Barneys that I have owned - both the Connaught (236 last) in 12D and the Keswick boot (325 last) in 12D are the equivalent of UK 11.5E.
     
  18. dandie

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    One thing is certain. When a CJ shoe is born it is a certain size (let's call it an X). If it is for sale in the USA, then it is called an X+1. Always.

    What size in a particular last will fit you is a very different question.

    But if you try on a 12 in NY, the identical shoe will be an 11 in London.
     
  19. Gerry Nelson

    Gerry Nelson Senior member

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    Why are the RL shoes made by C&J labelled as half a size difference between the UK and US sizing?

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  20. dandie

    dandie Senior member

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    cant help you with RL sorry
     

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