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** Quintessential Crockett & Jones Thread ** (reviews, quality, etc...)

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by david3558, Feb 24, 2011.

  1. hoit1981

    hoit1981 Senior member

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    Holy crap!
     
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    They look awesome

    Congrats
     
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    Beautiful!
     
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    nice boots.
     
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    One more hot day here. Whiskey Unlined Harvard...
     
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  6. hoit1981

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    ^ I like to think that if I ever decide to wear loafers these would be my first. Very nice sir.
     
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    I'm really enjoying my Tan Scotch Grain Pembrokes at the moment. These will be my wet weather default shoe. Which product would be best for protection? The usual Saphir Cream and wax? Dubbin?

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    I haven't worn them in the rain yet but I've noticed that of you get a slash of water on them, they go really dark so I presume they are highly absorbent at the moment. Is this normal?
     
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    The shoes absorbing water doesn't sound like it would healthy to me.
     
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    Did I read there is a length difference between lasts 325 and 335? My understanding was 335 is slightly wider in the toe box. Thanks ..
     
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    The 335 is slightly wider at the toe end that is correct, I did not notice any significant difference in the length between the two and prefer the fit of the 335 last myself.
     
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    Keep in mind that the 'scotch grain' here is just regular leather with a grain pattern imprinted. While it may look harder wearing, it's no different than a regular dress shoe upper when it comes to water resistance.

    Waxy leather treatments will likely darken the leather significantly, and may make them more prone to scuffs. GlenKaren shoe care makes a polish with sodium bentonite as the active water-resisting compound, I have some but haven't tried it out on my Conistons yet.

    http://glenkarencare.com/gkcp/water-resistant/
     
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    Good to know. I always thought grain leather is different and more rigid than regular calf.
     
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    As Autumn approaches a mans mind turns to wet weather shoes and I'm considering a pair of the Pembroke's in scotch grain. Does anyone have any views on this model and specifically how they age or hold up up over time?
     
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    While you're right that it is a pattern imprinted over older calfskin, that process does make it a harder wearing shoe and more weather resistant. There's a reason it is a common material on casual English shoes. If you call C&J for example and tell them you want a shoe with good water resistance this is what they are going to recommend to you...
     
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  15. Leonardo Da Vinci

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    If it may helps I can give my opinion on some lasts you mentioned.

    I own a 325 last and also a 236 last ( connaught model as the one you'd like to buy now.

    If you have a normal shape of feet, I can say the connaught are roomier than a 325 lasted model.

    Keep ind mind you also have to consider the shoes construction:

    For example, the 325 last model I own is a pair of pembroke, which has a double sole, goodyear welt and dainite outsole. It's in grain calf and the most important thing, is a full brogued derby.

    While for the connaught: it's an oxford cap toe model in calf, single leather sole.

    The ball foot of the connaught is roomier than the 325 of the pembroke, but as I said before keep in mind the pembroke has a heavier construction, so there is less space for the foot inside.
    Even the instep of the connaught is ok for me in comparison with other oxford models: as you know people with a high instep might have some problems with oxford shoes, but I say one more time, if you have a normal foot, you should not have any problems with the connaught
    In my case I had to size up for the pembroke of 1 size even because I couldn't think to break them down wearing them, cause a brogued shoes it's very hard to loose, while a plain calf shoe will easily loose.
    Just to add another detail: I also have the pembroke in 317 last that means G fittiing and in this case I wear the same size of the connaught.

    I don't know how confy the 325 conistion were for you since the beginning, so, hope you can use my experience to have a more clear idea on the sizes.
     
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    Could I ask how the Pembroke compares on the different lasts please?
     
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    It depends a bit on your foot, but generally speaking forget to wear the same size for the pembroke in 325 last and the pembroke in 317

    the 325 is E fitting, while the 317 is G fitting.
    In my case I had to size up 1 full size from the 317 G.

    The 325 E is very tight, at least for me, and being a brogued model does not help to feel them comfier with the time passing; so my advice is, if you feel this model tight since the beginning, just leave it and go for a bigger size: half size or 1 size up as happened to me.
     
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    ,,,,,,,,,,,,,And same thing for the Grasmere with the difference they're not brogued, so they loose a bit easier
     
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    ^ +1000
     
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    Just got the Pembroke on the G, 317 last. Great fit but a heavy shoe. Does anyone have any thoughts on how long a C&J brogue like the Pembroke will take to break in?

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