** Quintessential Crockett & Jones Thread ** (reviews, quality, etc...)

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by david3558, Feb 24, 2011.

  1. CTBrummie

    CTBrummie Senior member

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    Check the Pennine, Mallory and Fiennes boots. Also the Cairngorn shoe, and they used to do similar models such as the Cardigan and Newmarket that sometimes pop up on eBay...none of them shearling-lined, but all veldts. Cheaney have been one of the most prolific of veldt makers over the years.

    Also worth noting that most of Cheaney's veldt boots are (leather-)lined, unlike the Snowdon and Galway. because they use a different basic pattern to C&J and EG, whose pattern is basically a wholecut derby boot with unlined leg.

    I often wonder if Cheaney picked up their veldt machiney from Tecnic when they went under, as the basic Cheaney veldt shoe pattern closely mirrors the old Tecnic classic pattern. I've heard that Alfred Sargent picked up Lotus's old machinery (Lotus being the originator of the 'welted veldtschoen), and it's a shame that AS no longer offer a selection of veldts because they used to make bloody battleships such as the Selkirk and Kelso et al.
     


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    I picked these up recently, but I'm not sure if i'll keep them. They are unbelievably beautiful but I don't know if they fill a hole in my wardrobe.

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    A rather unseasonal topic...
    I'm planning some spring / summer footwear, and in particular, loafers. I"ve always opted for Bally in the past to cater for this niche. But Bally are not what they once were. Last year I ordered Crockett and Jones "Henley" cordovan loafer. A well-crafted shoe, in burgundy with a double leather sole. Alas, I found the fit incompatible despite being a 325 last, and much too heavy for warm weather. I returned them to the Birmingham shop for a prompt refund.
    I would welcome any comments on the "Boston" loafer in burgundy, and especially the "Harvard" loafer, the latter - single leather sole and unlined might prove a good fit for me.
     


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    The Boston is considered C&J's classic penny loafer. The unlined Harvard would be perfect for summer although perhaps size down half. I think it's currently on sale at the moment instore.
     


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    Inimtable - these are really great looking shoes! I don't know you're wardrobe but these look like keepers to me. I wouldn't mind having them under my bed. :)
     


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    I'm not sure how versatile this shoe is given that it is Scotch grain and a balmoral. They do look nice though.
     


  7. JubeiSpiegel

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    Alright, so i'm going to pick up a pair of Dartmouths and a pair of Draycotts from the current C&J sale.


    I have two questions to ease my mind:

    One - What last are these on? I want so say both are on the 341 last, i recall the Dartmouth being on the 341 last on the C&J site, and the Draycott 2 is currently on the 341 last.

    Two - Is there any difference in the model from the original Draycott to the present Draycott 2? All pics i find look like the same model and details.

    EDIT: Looking at my C&J Catalogue (which has both shoes in it), it looks like the Dartmouth was on the 318 last, and the Draycott was on the 317 last. Having experience with only the 341 last, how does it compare?
     
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  8. clee1982

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    Aha, I must have missed it, how is Paul Stuart's pricing then, decent?
     


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    Very nice make up, though grain on such a dressy shoe is a bit odd combination I guess
     


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  11. CTBrummie

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    The sale price is good. Their original retail price is a rip-off. The boots sell for £350 here and I got mine for £270.
     


  12. Eliasgardner

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    Hi guys, any reliable online stockists for Crockett&Jones? :)
     


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    Most stores don't carry them in stock. They have to be special ordered. You may want to try the C&J shops directly.
     


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  15. JubeiSpiegel

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    I agree, every online retailer for C&J has unreliable stock. Barney's is good, but stock is limited and models vary.

    C&J stores always seem to have the product in stock...
     


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