Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by david3558, Feb 24, 2011.
Typhoon weather calls for Dainite sole:
C&J Chelsea 5 boots in Roughout Suede.
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New to the forum, but not to Crockett and Jones footwear. Just curious about the CTBrummie last post. I don't recognise those boots as Islay or Mallory. Can this be clarified? The first looks like Skye. I don't recognise the second. Very like a Coniston. Would like to know......
I have had my Coniston for some ten years. Brilliant boots, very elegant country wear. My cordovan Harlech are the epitome of style. As I type I am awaiting the delivery of Purdey dark brown scots grain built by Crockett and Jones on the 325 last (ie Conistons by another colour).
Its the navy Coniston. New for the year.
Just received delivery of my Purdey scotch grain boots. Not as heavy as my Coniston, thinner dainite sole. I think the leather is not as good quality, but my Coniston were made ten years ago - perhaps standards have slipped, or maybe Purdey contracted Crockett and Jones to downgrade the leather for these. Most of the numbers on the lining match my old Coniston. I'll have a decide if I will keep them. I'm hoping if I hang onto them, they will buff up better than they look now.
Five or six years ago I bought two pairs of Grasmere shoes - one black, one tan. I'm very fond of country grain and like them a lot - the last suits me very well. Last week I bought another pair of black Grasmeres - the original pair are still in quite good order but had become quite scratched.
The new pair appear to be made from a rather different grade of leather - the pebble grain is somewhat more defined, which I like, but the leather seems rather stiffer, which I'm uncertain about. I'm quite sure the original Grasmeres were always softer, it's not a question of their having become softer with age.
I would be grateful if C&J's spokesman could comment on whether the sourcing of their leather could have changed in this time.
Former are definitely Islays; I have a pair myself. The Islay is a higher boot and I think even has an extra speed hook compared to the Skye. The Islay also has a pebble finish whereas the Skye has a smooth upper. Finally, (this really can't be seen with the picture) the lasts are different with the Islay being more generous (at least from my experience) compared to the Skye.
Yes, you are, of course, correct. I should have looked at the speed hooks. I was misled by the colour of the boot in the photograph. I tried on a pair of Islays some weeks ago and they seemed to me to be dark brown. I was put off by the brogueing and went for the Purdey version of scotch grain on a 325 last - the roomiest last in my opinion.
The Islays are, unworn, a very deep brown that appears almost black. Mine have lightened a lot since I've been wearing them, and I think they look all the better for it! The colour of the laces seems to bring out the lighter tones, too.
I love my Skyes but they don't get anywhere near as much wear as the Islay, so I might be letting them go soon. And you're right, the 325 last is a roomy last, although I'd say that the 228 possibly pips it for overall roominess.
I've now got a pair of the Mallory boots on their way to me from Cheaney, and 'accidentally' ordered a pair of their shearling-lined Irvine brogue boots for a side-by-side comparison with the navy Conistons. One of these pairs, alongside the special order placed with C&J last week, will be part of my kit for this winter...
C&JOnline, can you tell me about cavalry calf? Is it corrected grain or is it regular calf with a wax finish? I've heard it has a very "gummy" feel to it.
See the following post:
Can anyone confirm the maker and last of this boot? The website says made in England but goes no further. RL's customer service was no help.
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I just bought my first pair of Peal and Co, I have to say I think I'm love with my shoes. How can I determine that they are really C&J and what last they are on?
I'm just starting to upgrade from sub-$200 shoes; I picked up a pair of AE Fifth Avenues and threw them back in the shipping box when they arrived because of how hideous they were. If purchasing in the US, is pediwear still the best place to shop or is it better to phone in to the NYC store and have them ship it from there?
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