Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by david3558, Feb 24, 2011.
Thanks it helps alot. When wearing them, you mostly dress them up right?
Welcome. And yeah, I tend to avoid smooth leathers with denim unless they're waxy or otherwise matte, for the most part at least.
Okay good, because I'd be dressing these up. I'd love the Islay if it wasn't scotch grain, makes it too casual for work.
I'll be wearing the Islay to work when the temperatures have dropped a little. It's a very fine grained leather which further smooths out the more it gets worn.
We wear business casual at work, to put that into perspective a little.
I wear my Islays to work quite a bit. I am generally wearing an odd jacket and trousers, along with a tie. I feel the scotch grain looks fine in these combinations, especially when the jacket is a bit more country, like something in brown.
I was in Paris the other week and I couldn't miss the C&J store... now I'm short €600+...
Courtenay in burgundy calf, last 363.
An absolutely beautiful pair of shoes sir. Are they your first handgrade C&J's, and do you think you would have benefitted from getting a MTM shoe? I'm just asking because its pretty cool if you can walk into a pair of $800 shoes and get a good fit.
I have the same shoe but my shine on the toes is no where near as nice. What is your method?
I'll write a little follow-up for those who are interested. Today I went to the Brussels C&J to buy a new pair of shoes, a half-size smaller then my Edgware's to avoid the heel-slippage on my Edgware's. I explained my problem to the store manager who took a good look at my feet and she was of the opinion that the heel slippage is caused by my rather small heels. She said I have strange feet; normal-broad at the toes and very small at the heels. She said I shouldn't size down as she expects it would cause problems at the toes (she was rather surprised I didn't have toe-issues with the current UK8 size) and it would probably not solve the heel problem. After that she felt at the shoes and said that that the heel counter is still very stiff. She expects that I will be fine in a month or so if I keep wearing them, softening the leather. She also advised to wait until then to buy a second pair of shoes.
She also said that C&J shoes should be rather comfortable immediately after purchase (somebody said the same thing here in reaction on my previous post) but that it is normal that the break-in period is much longer for somebody with very small heels.
I was very happy with her service and help. I'll be patient and wear them another month and half and reevaluate after that (I'll write another follow-up post too). Thanks for all of your kind comments and help!
This may not be news, but has anybody else noticed that they sell C&J at J. Crew?
Do they ever go on sale? I've know about the Alden's for a while, but was surprised to see C&J oxfords.
I have the harvard in dark brown shell...I am a US9D TTS....I took a UK8.5 and it was just dandy.
These are wonderful, wear them in good health!
I wouldn't be so sure about that, considering that C&J uses plastic heel counters. Higher grade manufacturers use hardened leather which adapts to the shape of your heel; plastic is cheaper but possibly also more hard-wearing. The only change you can expect from the heel counters is that the sock leather will get rougher over time, which increases traction and may decrease slippage. A good cobbler can make an insert for this area, which may alleviate your problems.
Does C&J use plastic heel counters in all of their shoes?
No, this is the 3rd hand grade in my current collection.
I don't think a MTM shoe will give you a better fit than a RTW; the reason is that MTM use the same standard lasts as RTW; you might have thought of bespoke?
I think C&J offer some sort of customization, but I'm not sure. However, since I live in a country with no direct C&J retail I probably can hardly benefit from that program.
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