** Quintessential Crockett & Jones Thread ** (reviews, quality, etc...)

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by david3558, Feb 24, 2011.

  1. gyasih

    gyasih Senior member

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    Yes very nice but color looks alike. Could you take photo with the light at your back?
     


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    In other words, light facing front of shoes
     


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    aha, that sucks.
     


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    archangle13 Senior member

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    Can anyone comment on fit difference between c&j 240 last (for peal) and AE #5 last? Length, width and instep?
     


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    msulinski Senior member

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    I wear a 9.5 E in AE 5. I wear a 9.5C (bb American sizing conversion I think) in the 240 last. I probably could have done with a D width, but since it was a monk strap, I needed a tighter fit to prevent heel sleep. Length, I believe, is similar. AE 5 last is probably a little narrower.
     


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    AE's 5 last is narrower and longer. I wear 9D in AE's 5 last and 9.5D in the Peal (US sizing).
     


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    raphaelargus Well-Known Member

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    Not to throw more confusion into this, but in the same stated US size, I find the Peal 240 to be roomier than AE 5. Disclaimer should be noted: I'm comparing AE calf shoes to the Peal cordovan boot.

    Another note: I personally do not put much faith into the last numbers (and widths) that C&J puts into Peal shoes. I have both a C&J Westfield (341) in E width and it is the same length as the Peal burgundy captoe (also purported to be on the 341) half-size up in US width. However, the Peal in both D and E widths (US) are tighter than the UK 341 in E. On top of that, comparing the two pairs of shoes, you'd guess they were on different lasts despite the fact that they both have 341 written in them.
     
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    I agree that the Peal 240 has more volume in the toe box, and is, to that extent, roomier. I've had calf and shell in each last.

    To your second point, I have owned 2 similarly designed and lasted calf monks - one C&J stock model in UK8.5e and one C&J for BB (Peal) in US9.5d. The Peal version, as measured on the outsole, was easily 1/2 inch longer.
     
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    Now this is interesting.. I read elsewhere that the peal 240 is a narrow last.

    However, from outsole measurements, the 240 seems even wider than a US D width! Does anyone have the experience of the peal 240 fitting wider than D?

    Am I right in saying the peal 240 is shorter and wider than the ae 5 when comparing the exact same marked US size?
     


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    Another thing, is scotchgrain more water resistant than normal calf? Or is it just a difference in aesthetics?
     


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    Patrick R Senior member

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    It is definitely wider. I am a D width in the AE 5 and a C width in the Peal 240. I have not noticed a difference in length.
     


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    can anyone ID these shoes? the pattern made me think of Selborne, but since I've only seen pictures of the shoe on the internet and never in person I can't quite tell if the last is the same.. The Selborne looks like it possibly has a fuller toe cap? Anyway, it might be impossible to tell from this picture, but if anyone has any insight that would be great (and of course you can click on pic to enlarge).


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    did a little research online, they actually look a lot closer to these shoes.. almost identical.. unfortunately they list a bunch of names and I wouldn't have the slightest idea of which one is most likely.. maybe Lattanzi?
    http://fr.groups.yahoo.com/group/soulierdeluxe/

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    Could likely be bespoke; with italian industrialists you never know :p
     


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