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** Quintessential Crockett & Jones Thread ** (reviews, quality, etc...)

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by david3558, Feb 24, 2011.

  1. hoit1981

    hoit1981 Senior member

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    FYI, I've updated the Harlech MTO thread. Whiskey cordovan is available, so the current plan is Harlech, whiskey, all eyelets, storm welt, double leather. Let me / the thread know if you're interested.
     
  2. Tuur

    Tuur Well-Known Member

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    Hello, I want to order Northcote boots. I had some trouble finding my correct size for the 348-last but 7,5UK seems to give me the best fit after some wear (I have Westbourne Oxfords in this size).

    I was wondering if I can trust that a Northcote in 7,5UK will give me exactly the same fit as my Westbourne's in 7,5UK do. Both are on the 348-last so I suppose they will fit identical.

    Maybe a stupid question but better safe than sorry in this price category :)

    Thx!
     
  3. Crat

    Crat Senior member

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    Nope, a mate of mine has the Alex in 7.5 but the Northcote in size 7. As the Northcote is a boot and a Derby its a little more roomy. Much will depend on your instep.
    I'm not saying you should size down 1/2, I'm saying you might have to.
    Sorry, I'm being the opposite of helpful.
     
  4. NAMOR

    NAMOR Senior member

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    good points - i second this. when i went tts, it felt roomy. I think id prefer the snug fit of sizing down 1/2 size
     
  5. jrd617

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    At inimitable and chipshot and others interested in the whiskey cordovan loafer. I heard back from C&J. Here's what they quoted me.

    $800 (£495) for a batch over six
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    $1200 (£750) for a single shoe - no batch order

    Looks like a no-go considering the Ben Silver price ($875). Only a marginal discount. Disappointing considering the Harlech boot was going for less when quoted to Hoit. (Much better "bang for buck" - they're using more cordovan)
     
  6. CTBrummie

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    Pretty bollocks mobile pics, but these are the navy grain Coniston model that I picked up today in lieu of making a definite decision on a pair of special order Snowdons. Gonna decide over the next couple of days whether or not to keep these or go with the other option.

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  7. The7Ups

    The7Ups Well-Known Member

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    ^Not sure about them brummie.

    Not having seen them in person I don't like the photos on the C&J website. Bit too fashion fwd for me. Something that Church's get slaughtered for on Styleforum

    Would prefer any of the Consiston variants available through James Purdey for pretty much the same price.

    http://www.purdey.com/clothing-accessories/mens/mens-shoes/
     
  8. Tuur

    Tuur Well-Known Member

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    Okay, thanks a lot. This definetely is a helpful post. I guess I should wait with my order until I've tried the Northcote in 7,5 and in 7 somewhere. I still think its strange however. The boot is made around the same last so before you've have worn them quite a bit, you expect the Northcote to be exactly the same inside as an oxford made on the same last, no? Both shoes are tightened around the same plastic last, so why would a derby be more roomy than an oxford?
     
  9. NAMOR

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    great website. thanks for posting
     
  10. Crat

    Crat Senior member

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    Like I said, a lot depends on your foot. Although both shoes may have been made on the same last a derby can simply 'open up' more and thus accommodate more foot.
     
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  11. The7Ups

    The7Ups Well-Known Member

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  12. Crat

    Crat Senior member

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    Agreed, I'f id live in the country i'd get me those. For a normal bloke like me they are unwearable tho, unfortunately.
     
  13. CTBrummie

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    Not feeling them? None of the pics I've seen do them justice at all, but I know that navy wouldn't appeal to a lot of people anyway. I kinda like the idea of a non-brown boot given that my collection covers the whole of that part of the spectrum, and there's not a cat in hell's chance you'd get me wearing black footwear except under protest.

    C&J won't do shearling-lined boots, as confirmed today. The other option I had in mind was a Snowdon variant with the 'shoe' part of the boot in rough-out and the leg in a contrasting material. Having spent well over an hour today going through the swatches in the shop, I narrowed it down to about a dozen (!) options, including a waterproof green nubuck, navy suede, ocean blue suede, navy grain and so on.

    The problem with seeing all the options side-by-side is that it's difficult to settle on one option without immediately doubting your choice and thinking of another, equally effective combo...

    Those Purdey boots are great; I posted a few of their models a couple or three months ago. I like the apron-front grain and nubuck boot (although I preferred the earlier grain and rough-out version that Purdey offered) in particular. The buckled boot was an option that I looked into for a special order but, like Crat, I think I'd struggle to find opportunities to wear it - and this bearing in mind that most of my footwear collection is 'country' stuff.

    I've a pair of C&J Hastings brogues made for Purdey in a brown grain and they have aged fantastically, a truly beautiful example of the kind of naturally aged 'nice things' that appeal to a certain mindset of English sensibility.

    I'm going to try the navy boots on with a few pairs of jeans and trousers tonight and make a decision as to whether or not to keep them and, if returning them, what special order combo to go with for a Snowdon...
     
  14. budapest12

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    ^ I think they look sharp and are going to be versatile. Good alternative to black and I see nothing overly fashion-forward (by which I expect "too trendy" was implied) about them. No disrespect to those who disagree.
     
  15. The7Ups

    The7Ups Well-Known Member

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    Quote:This Brummie, navy just doesn't do it for me (btw I have handled the black scotch grain that C&J uses on Onslow and Grasmere and I don't like it either so perhaps I have a double negative bias here). Having said all that they have a nice distinct silhouette and look good on you. Decisions, decisions.....
     
  16. Fred G. Unn

    Fred G. Unn Senior member

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  17. SuitedDx

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    I hope I am not taking too much steam from the Harlech MTO but their progress has peaked my interest in a whiskey shell Skye II. Anyone here interested in this type of MTO?

    Specs:
    Uppers: Horween Whiskey Shell
    Last: 335 (standard last for the model)
    Welt: Storm welt
    Sole: Double leather
    Eyelets: All blind

    I guess a minimum of 6 (maximum of 12) orders are needed and payment is done up front. If I get a couple of commitments I will go forward and contact C&J in addition to speading the word to other threads on SF.

    :D
     
  18. Fred G. Unn

    Fred G. Unn Senior member

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    Ok, at first I thought it wasn't working but it actually is. PSA: C&J Peal & Co's are 25% off at Brooks Brothers through Monday. After you've added them to the cart the discount shows up as "Order discount" under Payment total.
     
  19. Alan K C

    Alan K C Well-Known Member

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    Hello everyone, it's been awhile. After 7 months, my lady's shoes and my boots are finally here! Picked them up last night. But one of her shoe came with a small cut...

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  20. budapest12

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    ^ That's nothing at all. Nice shoes, I'd be happy with them.
     

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