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** Quintessential Crockett & Jones Thread ** (reviews, quality, etc...)

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by david3558, Feb 24, 2011.

  1. BespokeKiwi

    BespokeKiwi Senior member

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    green garden,

    I agree with your comment about the C&J Milton's needing a dressier outfit. So, I will reserve them for smart casual / dress use and purchase a pair of C&J Hartland and/or Tetbury suede boots for casual / smart casual use.

    Thanks for your words of encouragement!
     
  2. blacksamurai30

    blacksamurai30 Well-Known Member

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    Hey guys quick question, I'm looking to buy a pair of crockett and jones cavendish loafers, and I am wondering what the general advice is on choosing a size. TTS, or size down? I've heard that the last is wide. I usually wear a 10.5 in AE Daltons (if that means anything). Thanks!
     
  3. B-Rogue

    B-Rogue Well-Known Member

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    Went to the Birmingham store in the end to try the various models (very pleasant and welcoming staff by the way). In the end decided to go with a pair of Radstock. Looked very nice and I suppose you can never go wrong with the classic shape.

    Next purchase planned is a nice pair of cordovan Skye 2[​IMG]
     
  4. BespokeKiwi

    BespokeKiwi Senior member

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    Another SF member kindly uploaded a comparison of several popular C&J lasts, which is very helpful for those of us trying to decide upon the most appropriate one.

    Below I've rearranged the last comparison for myself. That is rounded toe lasts on the left and square toe lasts on the right.

    Taking direction from C&J's retail catalogue, I've further refined the two above broad categories of lasts from more conservative (on left) to more sleek (on right), which other SF members may find useful.



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  5. Louis XIV

    Louis XIV Senior member

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    Appears as if 341 and 347 as well as 363 and 348 are very similiar besides the toe shapes.
     
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    This is very helpful. Thank you for the effort.

    I wonder if there's a way to comment on fit as well? I've seen a similar diagram floating around the Alden forum where they comment which one is TTS and which ones need size adjustment.
     
  8. JimmyHoffa

    JimmyHoffa Senior member

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    The 337 is the Audley, which is suppose to be quite conservative and not sleek.

    But on the pictures above it looks very sleek!
     
  9. Journeyman

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    It does look very conservative, but I suppose that's not only because of the last, but because it is a very conservative style, as it is a plain captoe without any ornamentation at all.

    I really like the 337 last - it is my favourite of the C&J lasts, not only because it fits my foot well but because I like the toe shape, which is a nice soft square shape, not as chiselled or "pointy" as the 348.
     
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  10. JimmyHoffa

    JimmyHoffa Senior member

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    Thanks for the clarification, JM.

    When you say soft square toe you mean a nice rounded toe, not square toed shoes, the ones that get ridiculed so much?
     
  11. Journeyman

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    By a "soft square" toe, I mean a toe that is not rounded (unlike the Edward Green 202 last, for example, and also unlike the lasts on the left in the above photo, but one that is a bit chiselled or angular, but not too much so, as the corners have been rounded off.

    Not too aggressively chiselled, but not too soft and rounded, either.
     
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  12. JimmyHoffa

    JimmyHoffa Senior member

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    It's quite a unique toe, if you think about it.

    See I would perceive the 341 to be more classic/conservative. It has a very gentle toe rounding, and on the left side of the shoe it rounds very smoothly. The 337 rounds quite sharply on the left hand side of the shoe which makes it look more narrow through the shoe. Perhaps in the flesh they'd be quite close.
     
  13. jrd617

    jrd617 Senior member

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    My C&J collection:


    From left to right:

    Bedford, 317 last, black calf
    Radstock, 341 last, brown calf
    Draycott, 317 last, chestnut calf
    Brooks Brothers Algonquin, 325 last, brown pebble (developing burgundy undertone)
    RL Marlow wingtip, 325 last, brown cordovan
    RL Marlow loafer, 314 last, brown cordovan


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  14. venividivicibj

    venividivicibj Senior member

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    Would like to see the above chart with the 325 also compared
     
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  15. jrd617

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    venivi, what do you mean? not clear what you're asking. both 325's are in there already
     
  16. JubeiSpiegel

    JubeiSpiegel Senior member

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    ^
    Probably means to this chart
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  17. venividivicibj

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    sorry, I meant I'd like to see the 325 last in this for comparison. just so its all lined up and can reference everything (because I'm told its not very sleek, but it looks very nice from your pictures)
     
  18. jrd617

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    Here, rotate this image 180

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  19. venividivicibj

    venividivicibj Senior member

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    [​IMG]
    looks almost the same as the 341
     
  20. jrd617

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    341 has a more pronounced, sharper toe. I've decided against getting the PTB for myself because it's too pointy for casual wear

    You can see this on the Marlow wingtip (325) vs PTB (341).

    325 wingtip

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    341 ptb
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