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[Crafty Cumbrian]

Any sizing tips for 379 last v 325? I’m looking at getting some Westgate Oxfords and wear a UK9 in 325 and 365 lasts. I have a feeling sizing up may be required but not sure. I’m also interested in the width as I have quite wide feet. Anyone own a pair of these?

While I’m asking for advice, I’m considering wearing these for a wedding. I was going wear some Pembrokes but thought that Oxfords might be more appropriate. Any views on this?

Depends on the level of formality mate, nice tweed jacket and chinos go a treat with the Pembroke!

 

[Pascal1980]

Hello everybody,

a question concern your experience with the fit and break-in of C&J shoes:

I am wearing for the fifth time today the "Weymouth 2" in UK 7 / EU 41 on the 373 last. It is the first time that experience pressure and rubbing in the heal. The shoe is still snug, with a small crease folt above my left big toe joint that presses a little bit into it.

-> Do those shoes still adapt to the heel, or are they just half a size to small?

i also wear the balmoral single monk on the same last 373 in UK 7.5 and it fits after 3-4 days of wear very nice without heel rubbing or a crease folt pressing a little bit into the left big toe joint. My left foot is almost 5mm longer then my smaller right foot.

The "James" on the last 348 is also a wholecut, like the "Weymouth 2", and feels roomy in UK 7.5.

Enjoy your weekend and best regards

Pascal

 

[YellowHandUp]

Hello everybody,

a question concern your experience with the fit and break-in of C&J shoes:

I am wearing for the fifth time today the "Weymouth 2" in UK 7 / EU 41 on the 373 last. It is the first time that experience pressure and rubbing in the heal. The shoe is still snug, with a small crease folt above my left big toe joint that presses a little bit into it.

-> Do those shoes still adapt to the heel, or are they just half a size to small?

i also wear the balmoral single monk on the same last 373 in UK 7.5 and it fits after 3-4 days of wear very nice without heel rubbing or a crease folt pressing a little bit into the left big toe joint. My left foot is almost 5mm longer then my smaller right foot.

The "James" on the last 348 is also a wholecut, like the "Weymouth 2", and feels roomy in UK 7.5.

Enjoy your weekend and best regards

Pascal

If right foot fits well, fake a foot injury and wear a rocker boot on your left foot.

 

[Fenners81]

Depends on the level of formality mate, nice tweed jacket and chinos go a treat with the Pembroke!

Yeah agreed - I’m wearing a suit so oxfords the way to go I reckon. Just ordered the Westgate 2.

 

[shahtirthak]

Islays last week

 

[Zapasman]

A good shoe could last forever. Good upper leathers are unbreakable. Not much to care about should you use shoe trees and a good brush.

 

[Pascal1980]

Well,

in Germany we also wear heavy cleated soles with polished calf-leather full-brogue derbies in autumn and winter with our suits:

Hence you find many derbies, by far more than oxfords, in German shoe stores.
Until 2022 my footwear was also just full-brogue derbies in black and brown with a leather sole with rubber protectors, goodyear-welted for 100€ from Deichman and Gordon & Bros. That was already "dressy" im comparison to others in the office.

...however, we also invented "Birkenstocks" and sandals with tennis socks as footwear ;-).

Enjoy your sunday and best regards

Pascal

 

[DorianGreen]

A good shoe could last forever. Good upper leathers are unbreakable. Not much to care about should you use shoe trees and a good brush. View attachment 2245855

A lovely natural patina on those loafers.

 

[DorianGreen]

Well,

in Germany we also wear heavy cleated soles with polished calf-leather full-brogue derbies in autumn and winter with our suits:


View attachment 2245883

Hence you find many derbies, by far more than oxfords, in German shoe stores.
Until 2022 my footwear was also just full-brogue derbies in black and brown with a leather sole with rubber protectors, goodyear-welted for 100€ from Deichman and Gordon & Bros. That was already "dressy" im comparison to others in the office.

...however, we also invented "Birkenstocks" and sandals with tennis socks as footwear ;-).

Enjoy your sunday and best regards

Pascal

Not a fan, it looks like a sort of mismatch to me. There are other (sleeker, smarter) boots that would pair much better with a suit.

 

[Humpty_Dumpty_Rises]

Well,

in Germany we also wear heavy cleated soles with polished calf-leather full-brogue derbies in autumn and winter with our suits:


View attachment 2245883

Hence you find many derbies, by far more than oxfords, in German shoe stores.
Until 2022 my footwear was also just full-brogue derbies in black and brown with a leather sole with rubber protectors, goodyear-welted for 100€ from Deichman and Gordon & Bros. That was already "dressy" im comparison to others in the office.

...however, we also invented "Birkenstocks" and sandals with tennis socks as footwear ;-).

Enjoy your sunday and best regards

Pascal

Kudos to ya for carrying around the coat, the shoes, the watch, the brolley and the bag. They all look solid. And it seems a heavy affair. Your probably lifting around some 25 kilos / 55 pounds there

 

[Pascal1980]

Kudos to ya for carrying around the coat, the shoes, the watch, the brolley and the bag. They all look solid. And it seems a heavy affair. Your probably lifting around some 25 kilos / 55 pounds there

Oh, that is not me. But I look comparable in the autumn and winter months. My business backpack with laptops and electronics weights around 15kg, and then my sports bag, heavy coat, and umbrella. Yes, 25kg /55lbs is a probable ballpark.

Best regards

Pascal

 

[Pascal1980]

Not a fan, it looks like a sort of mismatch to me. There are other (sleeker, smarter) boots that would pair much better with a suit.

Yes, but that is the fashion here. I would prefer Balmorals, formal Chelseas, Chukkas or Derby boots in dark brown or black calf-leather.

Best regards

Pascal

 

[ha er]

than do as you like.
I presume only very few people in frankfurt even know the difference between an oxford and a "budapester".

 

[ha er]

Any sizing tips for 379 last v 325? I’m looking at getting some Westgate Oxfords and wear a UK9 in 325 and 365 lasts. I have a feeling sizing up may be required but not sure. I’m also interested in the width as I have quite wide feet. Anyone own a pair of these?

While I’m asking for advice, I’m considering wearing these for a wedding. I was going wear some Pembrokes but thought that Oxfords might be more appropriate. Any views on this?

hi @Fenners81
definitely consider sizing up.
the 379 is a short last and toebox isn't as spacious as 325.

 

[ha er]

in my opinion c&j did change the scale of their sizes some five years ago.
in the classic lasts 325, 341 and 348 I wear half a number smaller than churchs or trickers (c&j 10, church's 10,5).

in more recent lasts (379) I'm now on par with size of other northampton makers.