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** Quintessential Crockett & Jones Thread ** (reviews, quality, etc...)

zippyh

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Try using a vpn or a private window.
Or eu.crockettandjones.com.
Anyway, they show 560 euros for suede to 630 euros for country calf.
 

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Hi folks!

I have a quick question and would really appreciate some advice. I want to get a better understanding of the issue to prevent any unnecessary mistakes, whether in sizing or style, in the future.

I recently picked up a pair of C&J Argyll boots that I absolutely love! The leather is extremely supple and they were nothing but shockingly comfortable from day one. I went up half a size from my usual C&J size to accommodate for thick socks, and to have a bit of breathing room in the toe box.

My boots, unfortunately, have developed creases in the toe cap, which bothers me aesthetically (please refer to the attached pictures). I’m not anal about leather creases – on the contrary, I welcome them – but these are almost halfway down from the seam (the left one is worse of the two) which is quite unusual, and certainly is not pleasing to my eye. It was my first pair of proper boots which I was really excited to get, even more so because of their dressy appeal, but this odd creasing has really put me off.

I’ve a couple of other C&J oxfords on different lasts (337 and 341) that are quite a snug fit, and the creasing on them is either before the seam on the vamp (where it is meant to be), or right past the toe cap seam, which is reasonable to expect.

It could very well be this style or this particularly supple wax calf leather as when I press the toe cap close to the seam, it feels very soft without any structure or stiffness. Or am I missing something here and it could possibly be something to do with the sizing?

I am also curious to know whether this kind of unusual creasing down the toe cap is more likely to occur when the shoes are too big or too small (assuming everything else is ok with the one’s stride)?

Thanks!

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This might be helpful
Also, I was in the main Jermyn Street shop this week. They cautioned me against going up half a size because of creasing. But the boots were so much more comfortable I thought I’ll trade off creasing for comfort.
 

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Hi folks!

I have a quick question and would really appreciate some advice. I want to get a better understanding of the issue to prevent any unnecessary mistakes, whether in sizing or style, in the future.

I recently picked up a pair of C&J Argyll boots that I absolutely love! The leather is extremely supple and they were nothing but shockingly comfortable from day one. I went up half a size from my usual C&J size to accommodate for thick socks, and to have a bit of breathing room in the toe box.

My boots, unfortunately, have developed creases in the toe cap, which bothers me aesthetically (please refer to the attached pictures). I’m not anal about leather creases – on the contrary, I welcome them – but these are almost halfway down from the seam (the left one is worse of the two) which is quite unusual, and certainly is not pleasing to my eye. It was my first pair of proper boots which I was really excited to get, even more so because of their dressy appeal, but this odd creasing has really put me off.

I’ve a couple of other C&J oxfords on different lasts (337 and 341) that are quite a snug fit, and the creasing on them is either before the seam on the vamp (where it is meant to be), or right past the toe cap seam, which is reasonable to expect.

It could very well be this style or this particularly supple wax calf leather as when I press the toe cap close to the seam, it feels very soft without any structure or stiffness. Or am I missing something here and it could possibly be something to do with the sizing?

I am also curious to know whether this kind of unusual creasing down the toe cap is more likely to occur when the shoes are too big or too small (assuming everything else is ok with the one’s stride)?

Thanks!

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Maybe the caps have a softer stiffener. Still very nice boots, it wouldn't bother me too much.
 

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Had my few year’s old Skye 3 back to C&J for a resole from double leather to dainite as I found I didn’t tend to wear them much in wet weather and I wear through the toe area quickly (even with a rubber toe piece added).

They have done a beautiful job.

Interesting to see how they take on a slightly more rugged persona with the rubber soles.

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Had my few year’s old Skye 3 back to C&J for a resole from double leather to dainite as I found I didn’t tend to wear them much in wet weather and I wear through the toe area quickly (even with a rubber toe piece added).

They have done a beautiful job.

Interesting to see how they take on a slightly more rugged persona with the rubber soles.

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Lovely. How long did it take?
 

stylenwby

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Hi folks!

I have a quick question and would really appreciate some advice. I want to get a better understanding of the issue to prevent any unnecessary mistakes, whether in sizing or style, in the future.

I recently picked up a pair of C&J Argyll boots that I absolutely love! The leather is extremely supple and they were nothing but shockingly comfortable from day one. I went up half a size from my usual C&J size to accommodate for thick socks, and to have a bit of breathing room in the toe box.

My boots, unfortunately, have developed creases in the toe cap, which bothers me aesthetically (please refer to the attached pictures). I’m not anal about leather creases – on the contrary, I welcome them – but these are almost halfway down from the seam (the left one is worse of the two) which is quite unusual, and certainly is not pleasing to my eye. It was my first pair of proper boots which I was really excited to get, even more so because of their dressy appeal, but this odd creasing has really put me off.

I’ve a couple of other C&J oxfords on different lasts (337 and 341) that are quite a snug fit, and the creasing on them is either before the seam on the vamp (where it is meant to be), or right past the toe cap seam, which is reasonable to expect.

It could very well be this style or this particularly supple wax calf leather as when I press the toe cap close to the seam, it feels very soft without any structure or stiffness. Or am I missing something here and it could possibly be something to do with the sizing?

I am also curious to know whether this kind of unusual creasing down the toe cap is more likely to occur when the shoes are too big or too small (assuming everything else is ok with the one’s stride)?

Thanks!

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I wouldn't let that bother you. As long as the creasing doesn't pinch your toes(rt foot), you should just enjoy and wear them. They are nice boots 👍
 

Fenners81

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Had my few year’s old Skye 3 back to C&J for a resole from double leather to dainite as I found I didn’t tend to wear them much in wet weather and I wear through the toe area quickly (even with a rubber toe piece added).

They have done a beautiful job.

Interesting to see how they take on a slightly more rugged persona with the rubber soles.

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They look great - 6 weeks though...

I always choose rubber over leather for the reasons you describe. Even if I don't plan to wear my shoes in wet weather, the toe wear issue on leather drives me insane.
 

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CJ always advise to take too small. There is though young sales ppl that do say to go up 0.5 size and use a thin insole (cj offers insoles for their different lasts)

I would never compromise foot health for less creasing lol not even remotely a question
This might be helpful
Also, I was in the main Jermyn Street shop this week. They cautioned me against going up half a size because of creasing. But the boots were so much more comfortable I thought I’ll trade off creasing for comfort.
 
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CJ always advise to take too small. There is though young sales ppl that do say to go up 0.5 size and use a thin insole (cj offers insoles for their different lasts)

I would never compromise foot health for less creasing lol not even remotely a question
Very wise imo. Edward Green shop also has the reputation of advising too tight a fit. I’m fortunate to have a sensible member of staff who agrees with my opinion on my size. For C&J I go up half a size because the E width is too narrow for me. Going up half a size gives me a good fit.
 

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