Yeah, I too prefer loafers on the snug side. I found posts that seem to suggest the Harvard uses US sizing. Maybe they relabel the sizes for US retailers? marmottan: "I usually take the LHS unlined in 8.5D but the Harvard in 9D. The small problem here is that it is not mentioned on the C&J whether it is in US or UK sizes. In my opinion, it is US size since I take for instance the chukkas and others C&J in 8.5D or 8E UK, never in 9D UK..." NAMOR: "I am tts 12D and these fit tts, 11.5D."