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** Quintessential Crockett & Jones Thread ** (reviews, quality, etc...)

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by david3558, Feb 24, 2011.

  1. Hermitedge

    Hermitedge Senior member

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    I can see the slight cut showing right above the reverse welt on the front part of my cap toe. Its where the shell on top can be distinguished from the lighter colored inner material, its barely even a mm, but its visible. I can probably live with it, but wanted to know if this sounds fine or the leather will split apart with time.

    Thanks.
     
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  2. joeninety

    joeninety Well-Known Member

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    im pretty sure all of the bench made gj cleverley are made by crockett & jones, the semi bespoke and AC look a lot like c&j work too, just with diff lasts and a much higher spec, when i asked that said they were made in house, ive seen their workshop and didnt see anything other than bespoke lying around so am sceptical about that
    id bet money on it
    ive noticed that kilgour and richard james had a lot of c&j shoes special ordered, ive a few pairs from killgours stock clearance sale a few years back and they are certainly on par with c&J handgrade, ive not got any from Richard james but ive seen them and they looked like the hand grades to me - all the styles are a bit 'out there' imo i have one pair of gj cleveley's where the leather is noticeably worse than the others, maybe its lower grade (c&j bench grade) at the same time all my c&j made for fosters & son have much better leather, imo better than my fathers edward greens
     
  3. Jakezero

    Jakezero Senior member

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    I'm by no means a shell expert, but as it sounds I wouldn't be too worried. If it's just a slight cut or scratch with no real depth then I don't think it should affect the structural integrity of the shoe.
     
  4. Hermitedge

    Hermitedge Senior member

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    I should've specified that the depth is no more than less than a mm (up down), but it goes across the curve of the front. Looks like a split in the material that the welt should've hidden, I'll try to pic it. Just tired of going through returns, but don't want to wear down a boot that can be compromised.
     
  5. schultjr

    schultjr Active Member

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    I thought I would share my collection. Starting from back left:

    Audley, Islay, Belgrave, Suede Westfield, Clifford, Westbourne

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  6. Ilovelobbs

    Ilovelobbs Senior member

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    The Westbourne my all time C&J's favourite and nice variety of colours....put some trees on them. They look naked without.
     
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  7. Ilovelobbs

    Ilovelobbs Senior member

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    Yes agree.
     
  8. schultjr

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    They have trees. I removed them for the pics.
     
  9. SuitedDx

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    I really do like the Clifford
     
  10. Hampton

    Hampton Senior member

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    Awesome, those pants aswell.
     
  11. Junior

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    X-post from rock your socks. Happy easter!


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  12. theundeadkennedy

    theundeadkennedy Senior member

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    My Skyes arrived at the retail shop and have now been sent in for the Dainite conversion!
     
  13. jmills

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    I went to the C&J site the other day and noticed that there is a Spring/Summer '13 collection featuring some new models. There are some new hand-grades and a new last, the 363. Any SF members copped yet and care to give an opinion?
     
  14. Hermitedge

    Hermitedge Senior member

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    I'm in love with the boots, and was able to get the absolute last pair in my size till who knows when... but as you can see, the underneath part of the shell is exposed, probably from where they cut the welting. I think I'm cool w/ keeping them and just polishing the part to darken it, but wanted to see if something like this would be ok in the long run. Thanks.

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  15. philweezer

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    Hello,

    I'm new to this forum and to C&J shoes. I was looking for help with sizing because I have a hard foot to measure. I wear a size 8.5 US in a regular shoe but a 7.5 US in a dress shoe. Currently I am wearing Ferragamo in a standard D width although the sides are protruding out. On soft leather it's fine but not the stiff ones, they kill my feet. So I'm interested in getting a chukka style C&J and I realized there are different lasts involved. I'm not sure if they will make a difference because of my wide feet. Put it this way, I had to get a custom hockey skate made because of wide feet. I'm not looking to get a bespoke shoe (cost) but I want to see if I am able to fit in a standard size that C&J has to offer. I tried to talk to the NY store and each time they brushed me off and referred me to the website so I wanted to see if the experts here can help me out.
     
  16. S K M

    S K M Senior member

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    I don't think you should worry to much, after a few wears and polishes it will be gone. BTW a very underrated C&J model and definitely my all time greatest C&J piece. You will LOVE them! :)
     
  17. philweezer

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    SKM,

    Thanks but I don't own a pair, I'm looking to buy one. I need help with sizing.
     
  18. Torsion

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    Wow - I'm quite surprised that the actual store would brush you off, coming from the UK I thought that service was supposed to be super good over here in NY. I was going to suggest to go in store and try some on - to be honest that's the best and only way to know your sizing as people can have differing opinions on comfort/fit.

    I found it overwhelming at first with trying to learn about the different fits and last types especially on the web although this is super helpful tool with getting up to speed on what's available.
    FWIW I wear a size UK7 in other UK brands but in C&J (last 348) I wear a UK6.5E - the UK7 in comparison are way too big in the vamp area.
    This was what I had derived from initial Styleforum searches but nothing really compares with trying a pair on.

    Stand your ground - hit the C&J store and get trying!Don't let them bully or pressure you, go in there and show your interest. Probably best not to mention if you intend buying elsewhere :)
    I feel like visiting the store now to see how they react as that doesn't sound like the service I'd expect from them! Incidently I accidently walked passed the shop a few nights ago and saw some really nice models in there that must be US specific but unfortunately it was closed and the wife was with me. No matter what other shoes I have that I'm happy with there's something very appealing about C&J in their finishing/design/finesse!

    Another visit there perhaps during opening hours minus the wife? :colgate:
     
  19. msulinski

    msulinski Senior member

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    I've been to the NYC store several times, and they have always been helpful. Granted, I was looking for a specific shoe each time.

    I agree you should go back and try the shoes on. It is mind-boggling that a sales associate would refer you to the website regarding fit when they have actual shoes to try on in the store.
     
  20. philweezer

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    Great advice about trying it on but I failed to mention I live out of state. My bad on that one so there is no way I can try it on except flying there. So I have to figure out which is best from feedback.
     

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