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** Quintessential Crockett & Jones Thread ** (reviews, quality, etc...)

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by david3558, Feb 24, 2011.

  1. Robstrongo

    Robstrongo Senior member

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    Yes, they are closer to being on par with C&J Handgrade (just a hair below IMHO). Not sure where you are seeing them for a lot cheaper than C&J Benchgrade, they retail at around £400 in the UK and start at around $725 in the US.
     
  2. misterjuiceman

    misterjuiceman Senior member

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    Anyone know how the Alfred Sargent Montague boot (AS 98 last) compares to the C&J Coniston boot (325 last)?
     
  3. SuitedDx

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    From my experience, owning numerous shoes from these various lines, compared to BG, AS Exclusive has better leather uppers, more detail on the sole (i.e., beveled edge), closed channeled soles, and softer lining. Definitely much better than the BG; the AS Exclusive is much more comparable to the HG line.

    I do like the look and almost jumped on a pair of those (or something that look like them) some time ago but hessitated because I also wanted to get a suede chukka and felt they would be too similar (heh, this logic never worked for cutting down shoes)...
     
  4. AE7

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    Can someone please tell me the name of the leather and the type of grade (Hand, Bench, if any) used in Northcote and in Conistons. Thanks!
     
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  5. Mike Ross

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    The Northcote is benchgrade and I believe the leather is waxed leather. I have a pair, and they're great boots.
     
  6. Gerry Nelson

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    The Coniston boots are bench grade and made from scotch grain leather although I am sure I have seen calf versions as well.
     
  7. CTBrummie

    CTBrummie Senior member

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    ^They do a calf version for Purdey, linked in my post somewhere above.
     
  8. Bugsy

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    question for the group, anyone notice the new logo adjacent to the hand-grade shoes? is it just marketing? arent they all made in England?
     
  9. stevent

    stevent Senior member

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    Thanks for positng
     
  10. skeptic

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    All are made in England, but the handgrades to a higher standard: oak bark soles, finer leathers (haven't verified this myself), closed-channeled soles.
     
  11. Gerry Nelson

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    I've felt the suede on a Belgrave (hand grade) and a Westfield (bench grade) at the same time and the material used for the hand grade shoe felt noticably finer. I think it's a little closer with the calf leathers - just my opinion.
     
  12. Hampton

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    That heel looks awful.
     
  13. Alan K C

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    The CJ NY store carry the Skype 2 in dark brown cordovan but sold out most of the sizes. My size is out of stock. They are currently "in production" according to the store.
     
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    That medallions ins't the Loake brogue medallion?

    BTW C&J made longwing style also for BBBF

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  15. NAMOR

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    ^ the bottom pair is made by AS. you can even see the markings on the inner heel
     
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  16. Alan K C

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    Recently, I bought a pair of CJ Benchgrade Pembroke and AS Exclusive Hunt. The CJ Benchgrade is not as good as AS Exclusive. The AS looks great. The CJ Pembroke with box stamped October 25 2012; the right shoe's outer flap didn't look very good, it look slightly larger, bad under trimming and closing? I took some pictures today to show the issues I have with CJ Benchgrade...




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    I have a similar issue with a pair of CJ Benchgrade Coniston with box stamped November 01 2012. Again, it is the right outer flap. It does not line up evenly, especially after I laced it up. As a comparison, I just purchased a pair of CJ Islay from Barneys NY last weekend. All four flaps are fine. There is no date stamp on Islay's box, I think it is covered by Barneys tag, but I am sure they were made recently due to the fact that Barneys just got them back in stock.


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    Anyway, what do I know... I still love CJ, can't wait to get another pair...
     
  17. Alan K C

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    The Northcote is Benchgrade with dark brown wax calf. The Conistons is also Benchgrade with tan scotch country grain leather. But Conistons has a slight antiqued finish, which I love. CJ NY has them, you can check them out in person.
     
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    And those BBBF two tone longwings were made by Grenson.
    I've got a pair of them.
     
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  20. AE7

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    Thank you guys very much. I have Northcotes in my possession right now, and used to have Conistons, before they were stolen. I order them online from UK. Sans VAT deals are usually good.
     
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