** Quintessential Crockett & Jones Thread ** (reviews, quality, etc...)

[vnguyen_md]

My first pair of CJ's and liking it.

 

[vnguyen_md]

Sizing Question:

My previous welted shoes have been largely American sizing (Started with Allen Edmonds and now largely Alden) - What is meaning behind the 2 sizes that are on UK shoes? Like EG has sizing written as UK8/8.5 - Is this to indicate the UK size is 8 and US size is 8.5?

 

[vnguyen_md]

CJ website shows the sizing guide as an UK8 is equal to a US8.5, but my friends said its usually a full size difference so I am not sure which is correct. What is the general consensus?

 

[jischwar]

Sizing Question:

My previous welted shoes have been largely American sizing (Started with Allen Edmonds and now largely Alden) - What is meaning behind the 2 sizes that are on UK shoes? Like EG has sizing written as UK8/8.5 - Is this to indicate the UK size is 8 and US size is 8.5?

I've only seen 2 sizes on EG shoes and the consensus is that it's a UK and US size. CJ and GG both show one size, but GG is sized more like EG (0.5 sizes from US to UK) and CJ one size down (similar to a brand like Carmina)

 

[jischwar]

CJ website shows the sizing guide as an UK8 is equal to a US8.5, but my friends said its usually a full size difference so I am not sure which is correct. What is the general consensus?

I would follow the 1 size difference rule for CJ for most lasts

 

[vnguyen_md]

I am an 8.5E TTS and that is what I take with Alden Grant/Hampton - I was thinking for CJ Coniston I would need 7.5F, but I took 8UK and it its near identical to my 8.5E Grant in length and width. Good fit even though I went down .5 size

 

[Jmr928]

I would follow the 1 size difference rule for CJ for most lasts

+1 on this generally speaking. May vary with different widths etc. Some of the lasts are more forgiving than others.

 

[vnguyen_md]

+1 on this generally speaking. May vary with different widths etc. Some of the lasts are more forgiving than others.

I'll try 1 full size down if I can find an F fitting next time, otherwise because I am a wide width, going down .5 size worked out ok for me

 

[jischwar]

I am an 8.5E TTS and that is what I take with Alden Grant/Hampton - I was thinking for CJ Coniston I would need 7.5F, but I took 8UK and it its near identical to my 8.5E Grant in length and width. Good fit even though I went down .5 size

Did you take 8E or 8F? The 325 last is going to have more volume overall (instep and toe box) and if I recall the Grant last has a higher instep as well

 

[Jmr928]

I'll try 1 full size down if I can find an F fitting next time

Keep in mind the lasts all have different sizing features with some being wider and some being more narrow. If I recall 325 is the widest and I know I've seen people who are US E width get away with a CJ E width on the 325.

 

[vnguyen_md]

Did you take 8E or 8F? The 325 last is going to have more volume overall (instep and toe box) and if I recall the Grant last has a higher instep as well

I took UK8 - E Fitting with my Conistons

They are damn near identical to 8.5E Grant ( here they are on their side lined up heel to toe )

 

[jischwar]

I took UK8 - E Fitting with my Conistons

They are damn near identical to 8.5E Grant ( here they are on their side lined up heel to toe )View attachment 1502870
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That makes sense to me. Standard Grant sizing says it fits 1/4 larger than regular US size

 

[oskrusa]

I took UK8 - E Fitting with my Conistons

They are damn near identical to 8.5E Grant ( here they are on their side lined up heel to toe )View attachment 1502870
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FWIW, I follow the same approach that you referred to. I cannot go a full size down on CJ due to having a wider forefoot.

 

[vnguyen_md]

FWIW, I follow the same approach that you referred to. I cannot go a full size down on CJ due to having a wider forefoot.

Thanks. Needed to hear that because I was thinking if I went down 1 full size without an F/G fitting it would be too tight. Glad I'm not the only one who went down .5 in size

 

[oskrusa]

Thanks. Needed to hear that because I was thinking if I went down 1 full size without an F/G fitting it would be too tight. Glad I'm not the only one who went down .5 in size

TBH, it might be better to go down a full size and then up in width to an F/G fitting, but that reduces your buying opportunities by several orders of magnitude.

I personally think that it's worth sacrificing the ideal length/width ratio by going down just half a size on standard width, which in turn opens up dozens of buying options that you wouldn't have otherwise.