I think it's a fair assessment to make that most people on this forum value quality and fit above all else. I was just wondering: 1) How do you judge the quality of a dress shirt? 2) How do you judge the quality of a tie? I find ties especially hard to judge. For shirts, it's a little difficult before washing them a dozen times. I don't know if there is necessarily a step by step process like choosing melons at the grocery store, but what are some things I should watch out for?