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I think that it is becoming less and less common.
I recently picked up Shirley Brice Heath's Ways With Words: Language, Life and Work in Communities and Classrooms, which studies a group of working class white kids and a group of working class black kids. You might find it interesting. John McWhorter mentioned it in a column, so I thought I'd try to read it.
Private school. I went through a public school system like you describe, and I would not put my kids through the same--if I had the choice.
Private school. I went through a public school system like you describe, and I would not put my kids through the same--if I had the choice. My kids are in an integrated & diverse private school. The students come from nearly all economic backgrounds, and many have single parents. The student body is even portions of African American, Indian American, and white kids. But none of these kids are deprived of parental attention. And all the parents want a strong academic environment for their children. And it's all peace and harmony on the playground. The boys do play rough some times, but not to express hatred or genuine antagonism. Your bully's behavior would never be tolerated in this environment.
yeah. there are two ways of looking at fighting - people who fight fair are, essentially, looking at fighting as a recreation. then there are people who fight because they have to, get the job done, and dont do it again unless they have to. I would rather my son belong to the later group. my son is a nice, gentle, intellegent kid, with a whole shitload of friends. kids who were in a class with him two years ago invite him to their birthday parties. I am not worried about his being a decent person, and we invest time and effort in his being a decent, healthy, well rounded person. school started on monday. for 3 days this week a kid in his class has been picking on him. my son has gotten him to stop, temporatily, with a little mild violence. I am not raising my son to do things in half meassures. so, yeah, you ask if I have a problem with my son kicking a kid when he is down? I don't. it is a lot more effective to kick a kid when he is down that to kick him when he is standing, unless you are really flexible. you know those kids who come to school in high school and shoot people? you know why they do it? because they were picked on for 10 years. I would rather my kid bloodies this bullies nose and teaches others not to **** with him, so that he can get on with life.
Anyone who goes to this school will succumb to some sort of gambling addiction (or other vice) when life slaps them in the face and they don't add up to what their textbooks say.
I don't know what the laws are about this in California. I do know that our laws governing self-defense with weapons are surprisingly permissive--probably a legacy of our Gold Rush past.