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Question about Prada styling

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by gamelan, Dec 7, 2004.

  1. gamelan

    gamelan Senior member

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    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws....83&rd=1 why are the sleeves so long relative to the overall length of the jacket? a 29 vs 25.5 seems out of proportion on a traditional sport coat. so is this more of a Prada styling thing? or is this not considered a sport coat? also, are Prada jackets supposed to be more of a snug fit? the 50R Italian size would normally translate to a 40R American size. but based on the 41 measured chest according to the seller, it would be too small on my 39. arrgh...someone put me out of my misery and buy this thing already... -Jeff
     


  2. zjpj83

    zjpj83 Senior member

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    It's ridiculous. All of the trendy designers do it and I have absolutely no idea why. The trendy look, I suppose, is to have the sleeve come to about the end of your palm. Check out D&G - same thing. I have seen 36-38 inch chest and 27 inch sleeves. Either these suits are actually purchased by orangutans, or the compnaies have some very strange notions about what looks good. for example: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws....73&rd=1 Edit: I actually think it's most prevalent with leather jackets, where I guess the goal is actually to have the sleeve cover your hand completely [​IMG] See, e.g. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws....08&rd=1
     


  3. Brian SD

    Brian SD Moderator

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    I actually like to have longer sleeves on my sportocoats / suits. I like to show barely any cuff at all. I think it looks good, if you show too much cuff it looks like you are outgrowing your jacket.
     


  4. A Harris

    A Harris Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Well, the sleeves are a bit long, and the jacket is very short - 29.5" top-to-bottom means 28" from the bottom of the collar. That's a full 1.5" shorter than a lot of shorts.
     


  5. Phil

    Phil Senior member

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    Maybe Im missing something - cant you just take the coat to a tailor and get the sleeves shortened? The only reason you couldnt is if it had functioning buttonholes already cut, and I didnt see that in the auction. I can see stitching around the button holes, but that should be removable if the holes arent actually cut. Alot of coats have those these days, stitched, but fake buttonholes.
     


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    Sevcom Senior member

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    That's unusual for a Prada jacket. Most of them in my experience are about 29.5 inches long, bottom of collar to bottom of jacket. Oh, and Prada jackets are generally boxier, and deliberately so, like '60s mod clothing. Their pants are slim, however.

    A lot of designers have been pushing shorter jackets for "regular" length designs, leaving the sleeves longer in proportion than usual. Being on the shorter side, I don't mind this--I can always get the sleeves shortened, and there's more clothing I can wear.

    (And I like showing cuff, for the classical reasons. Plus, it adds visual interest.)
     


  7. zjpj83

    zjpj83 Senior member

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    Nope, doesn't work. It's the stupidest thing in the world, and I went on a rant about this recently. I have tried it on a Zegna, to much disappointment. This stitching, which is so in vogue right now, cannot be removed without leaving visibily noticeable marks where it once was. I think the entire practice is extremely stupid, and it makes me look like this: [​IMG] Either sew buttons on or, if the sleeves are vented, leave them unfinished. But quit this ridiculous pretense that actually affects your customers' chance of getting a suit that actually fits properly.
     


  8. Phil

    Phil Senior member

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    Yeah, thats really silly. Hadnt realized those stitches would leave a mark.
     


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    Ah, no. It looks good when just a bit of cuff shows...if not it looks like the sleeves are too long.

    Jon.
     


  10. zjpj83

    zjpj83 Senior member

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    (Brian SD @ 07 Dec. 2004, 02:28) I actually like to have longer sleeves on my sportocoats / suits. I like to show barely any cuff at all. I think it looks good, if you show too much cuff it looks like you are outgrowing your jacket.
    Ah, no. It looks good when just a bit of cuff shows...if not it looks like the sleeves are too long. Jon.
    I agree, and so would almost everyone on the forum. But, I mean, on the what-would-you-wear-if-you-had-unlimited-money thread, he said Dior and D&G... If that's his style, that's his style.
     


  11. j

    j (stands for Jerk) Admin

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    Where's this rant? I missed it. I was sure this could be removed with no problems. If not, WTF are they doing putting it on?
     


  12. LA Guy

    LA Guy Opposite Santa Staff Member Admin Moderator

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    Yes, it's a styling thing. Prada jackets usually have unusually short skirts (the arms are about the same length) and exaggeration of the Milanese style. A mod sort of thing.
     


  13. Brian SD

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    Are you sure you cant remove the fake buttonholes? I took my suit to my tailor a couple weeks ago, he took the fake buttonholes off, shortened the sleeves, put the stitching back on, and put the buttons on it, and it looks brand new... no "scars" from the stitching. For clarification on "my style," I would still get those shortened. I just like show maybe 1/8" cuff, as opposed to 1/2".
     


  14. zjpj83

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    I have only tried moving the buttons like this with Zegna, so I don't know about other brands. The Zegna had the overlapping buttons, as you know. The stitching left discolored marks on the fabric - in other words, where the stitching was, the fabric was noticeably lighter.
     


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    I have a closet full on Zegna sport coats and suits - all of them needed the sleeves shortened - none (after steaming) have any indication of where the fake button holes once were. To have the fabric be lighter under the stitching is very strange... darker I could understand as the fabric may have been lightened by exposure to sunlight, etc...
     


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