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jbrie645

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Hello,

I'd like to take the plunge and purchase some suits on ebay but I'm a little apprehensive of buying knockoffs. I read that often times even sellers with 99.9% ratings may be selling a knockoff. How prevalent are knockoffs and is there any sure fire method for weeding them out? For example, what is the likelihood that the jacket below is a knockoff?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...00008.m2000041


Thanks for the help.
 

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I have probably purchased close to 100 suits/SCs on E-Bay over the years. I have never once purchased a knock-off. However, I typically stay away from brands that would be knocked off, like Armani. That inner tag looks good to me, but I will let someone who knows tags give you a more educated decision.

Best tactic is to read the seller's feedback. If he has a history of selling fakes, it is going to show up in his feedback. Also, you may want to try brands that are not typically knocked off...if you are genuinely concerned.

Mike
 

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It's legit.

Some caveats: Vestimenta was the maker of higher end Armani yes, and Vestimenta at the time of this coat (circa 2000) had a broadly similar cut, but this is not Armani.
 

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thanks for the speedy reply. your excellent track record with not getting knock offs is reassuring.

is armani considered one of the more likely knock off brands? which other ones would be likely?
also, would you avoid armani even if the feedback is excellent?

thanks again.
 

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http://toolhaus.org/ Check the seller's feedback here. It culls all the positives, leaving only negatives and neutrals. Often times, scammers will bury their true sales (garbage knock offs) with phony positives and inflate their feedback ratings. As far as brands go, think of the usual suspects. No one is going to spend the time to knock off an Oxxford, Brooks Brothers, Hickey Freeman as they don't sell for very much. Be wary of Gucci, D&G, Armani. Basically, all the gaudy Italian fashion houses.
 

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Legit Armani comes at all price levels.

It used to be that knockoffs were only of simple items, like tshirts, polos, jeans, neck ties etc. but now it could be anything.

The feedback system on ebay keeps anyone from getting away with this for too long, but some people dispute even authentic items.

So their are no hard and fast rules. If you have a question about an item, first search the forum to find authentic versions of the designers' labels, etc.
 

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If you're paying enough for an eBay suit to make it worth a knock-offer's time, you probably paid too much. The real deals are on second-hand stuff anyway.
 

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As already mentioned, the popular Italian brands seem to be the most common knock-offs. Definitely avoid the Ittierre made suits/shirts etc for brands like VJC, D&G, Gucci etc- these are the most common knock-offs.

2nd hand items - you are unlikely to come across a knock-off.

For NWT stuff, get the seller to send you a photo of the tags and labels in the item. If the seller wont, then dont deal with him/her.
 

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As for the suit you want, that looks authentic to me.
 

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How come this seller gets to put "VESTIMENTA Giorgio Armani Black Label" but when I put "UNIS skinny corduroy APC" it gets pulled by eBay.
 

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I'm going to hazard some unsolicited advice to the OP and say that $300 is a lot to pay for what is a rather dated 90s sportcoat (e.g. unvented, true 3 button). More power to you if that's what you like--the cloth is nice enough--but you could find something similar for much less.
 

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Originally Posted by bleachboy
How come this seller gets to put "VESTIMENTA Giorgio Armani Black Label" but when I put "UNIS skinny corduroy APC" it gets pulled by eBay.


If you can wiki link an ebay rep proof that both brands are related, they will take the strike off your account and let you relist it. They yanked a pair of Hermes shoes that I put John Lobb in the title, and I sent them the Wikipedia link where it shows that they are related, and they wiped it clean.

That said, I dont know what a UNIS is to APC, but Im guessing based on the Armani example.
 

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Originally Posted by Montauk
I'm going to hazard some unsolicited advice to the OP and say that $300 is a lot to pay for what is a rather dated 90s sportcoat (e.g. unvented, true 3 button). More power to you if that's what you like--the cloth is nice enough--but you could find something similar for much less.

I appreciate both unsolicited and solicited advice. is this jacket from the 90's? can you tell that just from the cut? is that how so much of the stuff on ebay is so cheap?
 

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is this jacket from the 90's? can you tell that just from the cut? is that how so much of the stuff on ebay is so cheap?
Yes, and yes. That's why it helps if you know a good deal about the brand or product that you are buying. If you are just looking for label X because you have a vague notion it's fashionable, you're likely to end up w/ something dated, overpriced, or not necessarily flattering. On the other hand, if you really like a label because you've been following them the last couple of seasons, know the difference between their various lines, know by experience that their cut suits you, and know typical retail and sales prices, you're more likely to have good luck.

Of course, always pay w/ a credit card and never buy from anyone who doesn't have an easy return policy.
 

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Just wanted to add that eBay has been a gold mine for me - especially suits! Pal Zilleri, Zegna, Brioni and Hickey Freeman - all at around or under the $300 you are considering...

One bad apple was a Moth Eaten suit that made me panic about Moth Larvee (Weevels) - but now I have a Cedar Chest and moth balls for that issue...

I have bought fake Polo Ralph Lauren shirts from eBay thru the years - but never had any knock-off suits.
 

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