Couldn't think of another way to describe them though it's a completely unsatisfactory term - not your A&S and Huntsman, but with long traditions and some rough patches in their histories. The Dunhills, Burberrys, Aquascutums and Hacketts of the world. I suppose you could just about include Austin Reed in that league, though they're a definite step down. What do people think about them nowadays? Price, value, quality, style? Which brands do you feel have come through difficulties well, which are still struggling, which are on a downward trajectory? Any stories of cherished past purchases? Or nightmare buys? Basically, anything you want to say about these grand names with long histories!