Yesterday I received 3 pairs of C&J's from PLal: black chelsea & snuff suede chiltern in 6.5 E, and savile in 7 E ( I am basically a US 7.5 D ). All lovely shoes, mind you. Curiously, the hand-grade savile, which it was suggested to go only 1/2 size smaller, has quite a bit of play in the toe box, while the other 2 pairs feel quite snug. I'm in a bit of a quandry: 1) Not sure if the Saviles are too big--there's quite a bit of extra length at the toe, which I expected based on comments here, and a bit of play in the height of the toebox (I can almost curl my toes) as well as the outside width, however when I walk I do not get a sense of my heels coming out of the shoes; 2) The Chelseas & Chilterns feel quite snug at the top & sides of my foot, in direct opposition to Saviles, although I have no trouble getting into and out of them. Will the leathers stretch to accomodate my feet, or should I take this as a basic indication that they're too small? Any input on sizing/fit criteria will be welcome. I guess this goes to show what a pain in the ass buying without trying (on) can be, particularly when the shoes have come from malaysia following a 5 week wait. FYI, I also own a pair of "the official thread shoe"-- the RL/ C&J chukkas--which fit great in a 7.5.